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Zippo insert material, its features and history

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yours_truly - Moderator

3:24 - 19 February 2010

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Message Edit 15:29 - February 19, 2010 user yours_truly


Just specify that the article on Zippo insert can be found on foreign websites, but since ZippoCollector.ru is the largest Russian-language portal about Zippo, I would like to insert an article on Zippo was also in Russian :)

Somehow on one of the branches forum slipped insert information about the "queen", in honor of which, for the most part, created this forum and the site accordingly! And it became a question of what metal is made insert.Zdes was not without controversy, but now , with your permission, colleagues, can be ordered on this topic punktam.I as follows:

- The end of 1932 - 1941 inserts are made of chrome-plated brass, as, in principle, and the case:

- Of 1941 - 1945. During the Second World War was made of lighter body stali.Sootvetstvenno, steel fabricated themselves inserts!

- 1946. - The beginning of 1951 inserts made of nickel, appear to be very similar to steel, sometimes not even tell the difference, and another thing the feeling in the hand, but check out the features I did not have:

- Mid '51 - the end of '53 During the Korean War (between North and South), in which the United States participated on the side of South Korea, Zippo again switched to the production of steel hull, in view of the fact that other metals needed for military needs! Of course, this also affected the inserts, which in those years as well began to produce steel:

- 1954 - today

So! And here begins the most intriguing! AVOID ANY misleading apply hypotheses about!

Since 1954, the inserts made ​​from start to chrome-plated brass, according to one site, but according to another website from stali.Soglasno accompanying video in Russian about making Zippo, inserts are made ​​of steel sheets, so this view is acceptable, but with a note of relativity NOT FINALLY! Unfortunately, I am not strong metal, so that he can not say definitively! According to most user reviews Zippo current inserts are made of steel

If that was not my fault! :)

Judge for yourself, photo insert 2002 (normal):

Photo insert 2002 replica of 1941!

Interesting facts:

In 1946-47. Zippo inserts made of an alloy of nickel and silver:

During these years there has been another change, the old insert is changed to a new one!

The old type of insert in 1946-1947. 14 holes in the windscreen, the new 1947 - 16!

And as in the '47 model there are two kinds of insert-type first and second type.

They differ in width Zippo inscription on the front of the insert:

Further, the inserts were made in 1942 with the "wrong" wrapper sheet steel roughly counterclockwise:

Between 1983 and 1984 there was a change in the ends of the brass tubes for silicon:

Since its inception, the end of 1932 to 1937 within the insert was here such Aglet:

Since 1937. before the beginning of 1958. inside the windshield end of the cam (hereinafter - the cam plate or if translated literally from English - spring cam!) was "hooked":

Since mid-1958. by 1969. inclusive cam inside the windshield began to direct:

Since 1970. Today on cam inside the windshield became widely:

In the period from 1961. at the beginning of 1963. rivet wheel became a whole and not prozrachnoy.Segodnya on modern models, not vintage, transparent rivet can be found on the insert Replicas Replicas in 1941 and 1935:

From the beginning of manufacturing for 1947. at the bottom of the insert was like this litter of cotton fiber type cigarette filter:

Since 1948. by 1992. at the bottom of the insert is used by all of us felt pad favorite:

1959. - 1968, together with the white is also used pink lining:

1968. - 1972 - used for one-piece gasket insert Solid Fuel Cell:

In 1991, the felt pad appears LIFT TO FILL, but it disappears in the hole tsentre.Eto continued until 2001 g.Kstati, for many of its purpose and the emergence of a mystery, but everyone is free to interpret it in their own way the origin and destination:

2001 - today reappears central hole in the felt pads are preserved inscriptions and today it exists in this form:

In 1989, slightly changing the cam plate inside the windscreen, the corners are cut off and a bit dull:

1946 - one of the highlights :)

Changing notches on the wheel with the horizontal overlapping on:

1970 - live cam inside the windshield, which was from the middle of 1958 to 1970, rashiryaetsya in the direction to the wheel (1970 - 1989), in 1989, it will replace the cam with blunt angles:

We insert Zippo 1932/33. cam was in the form of hook:

In 1933, the cam has changed a bit, took a more modern look, but his face was part vzakruglennoy and rear - on the contrary, the flat:

From 1947 to August 2003 cam existed in this form, and now both sides are smooth and flat:

In August 2003, I was a little end of the cam on both sides of the bottom there is something like a small incision:

Right fist until August 2003., Left, respectively - since August 2003.

Further, in February 2000, the inscription on the insert changes from vertical to horizontal orientation:

In 1999, appears to Zippo Pipe Zippo tubes and architecture respectively insert also undergoes izmeneniya.Eto concerns mainly the windscreen! Now it through, and the top plate is covered with a small hole:

In 1976, on the back of the insert appears that existed in this form until 1981 and provides about safety precautions when using the lighter, keep away from children, etc .:

In 1982, the swapped label and in this form are located on the insert and to this day:

Well, that's basically it, dear colleagues, visitors to the site and amateurs Zippo! I understand that somewhere may have flaws somewhere not understand everything but the bare necessities, such as disassembled Colleagues, experts do not judge, please strictly and harshly, I suppose that could be the error, I hope you did not have a very boring! :)

Thank you for your attention, good luck! :)


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Yours sincerely,

Yours_Truly


Merqury - Member

Samara, Russian Federation

11:13 - 19 February 2010

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Once again, great job, keep it up, yours_truly!

I will allow myself a little supplement and correct your material, to the best of their own knowledge of the subject.

yours_truly writes:

Since 1954, the inserts made from start to chrome-plated brass, according to one site, but according to another website from stali.Soglasno accompanying video in Russian about making Zippo, inserts are made of steel sheets, so this view is acceptable, but with a note of relativity NOT FINALLY! Unfortunately, I am not strong metal, so that he finally can not say!

This topic interested me too. I can not say for all years and models, but on my 2006 steel insert obviously, because attracted by a magnet, in contrast to the housing. Judging from the abrasions formed on the sides of the protuberances of the insert at the contact points with the housing - shiny outer surface is some plating likely chromium. It remains an open question with brass models, because they also insert the yellow metal

Since its inception, the end of 1932 to 1937 within the insert was here such Aglet:

In this "pit" was located at the time of coil spring, propping cam.

Since 1937. before the beginning of 1958. inside the windshield end of the cam was "hooked":

From mid-1958. by 1969. inclusive cam inside the windshield began to direct:

Since 1970. Today on cam inside the windshield became widely:

1970 - live cam inside the windshield, which was from the middle of 1958 to 1970, rashiryaetsya in the direction to the wheel (1970 - 1989), in 1989, it will replace the cam with blunt angles:

In these passages we are, of course, talking about the shape of the leaf spring cam.


Sincerely yours, Merqury ...

faust - Maniac

Moscow

17:29 - 19 February 2010

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elegant, 5 points !!!

yours_truly - Moderator

18:50 - 19 February 2010

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Thank you, Cyril!

yours_truly - Moderator

21:20 - 19 February 2010

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Message Edit 21:21 - February 19, 2010 user yours_truly


The fact that the inserts are made of steel I doubt no longer looked vyzyzvayut.Tolko two rollers about making Zippo, in both films is said that the inserts are made of steel! So in this epic, I think we can put a full stop!

Next! We proceed to cover! Oddly enough, both views, namely oniks1 and Merqury, fair, just yet provided a process of combining with others!

First on the second video said that first there is a nickel, and then on top of it chrome! In order to verify the feasibility of this process, decided about these two technologies to read! And please quote quote:
"Nickel Plating, coating the surface of the nickel plating products (thickness, typically from 1-2 to 40-50 microns). H. advantageously subjected steel products and alloys based on Cu, Zn and Al; at least - the product of Mg, Ti, W, Mo and their alloys; developed methods of application of nickel on a non-metallic surface - ceramic, plastic, bakelite, porcelain, glass and others. N. used to protect products against corrosion (in atmospheric conditions in solutions alkalis, salts and weak organic acids), increase the wear resistance of parts, as well as in protective and decorative purposes.

Nickel is used, for example, to cover the details of chemical equipment, automobiles, bicycles, medical tools, appliances, household items, measuring tool, clichés, stereotypes, as well as parts operated with small loads under dry friction, etc. Nickel coatings with time some lose its original shine. So often covered with a layer of nickel more resistant layer of chromium.

Benefits of chromium are well known. This metal has a tendency to be covered by a passive, transparent dense film, which increases corrosion resistance and warning darkening brilliant decorative coatings. Chrome itself does not create a good anti-corrosion protection for steel, hence the need to use intermediate layers such as nickel or nickel - copper. "

yours_truly - Moderator

21:40 - 19 February 2010

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Message Edit 22:04 - February 19, 2010 user yours_truly


Merqury writes:

It remains an open question with brass models, because they also insert the yellow metal


Generally, I suggest not to bother too much on this subject, although, of course, all this is interesting! In order any special in chemistry or physics obsmeyat I did not, I should say that I'm on the topic dalek.No in fact, what's the difference, I think so , no value lighter insert does not add, we learn from what he is made of metal! It's clear that it is not made of gold and platinum, if we are talking about the yellow insert!

Merqury, I was thinking at the expense of your question about the Brass Zippo models, which insert zheltyy.Tak, again, just put forward his hypothesis - insert taken the same steel and is zheltym.Kak is carried out again will not say exactly, but there are, for example, a process such as latuirovanie, the Internet can about him pochitat.Beretsya steel product, and covered with a layer of brass ... But I could be wrong!

Relying again on the movie in English, heard that kind of like this:

"The inside case is made of steel, but as this lighter is a gold lighter, the inside case goes to a gold bathroom to look like the whole lighter ..."

When she spoke, just insert shown a yellow! Look video, if not look! It seems you have with English everything is normal ..


yours_truly - Moderator

21:50 - 19 February 2010

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oniks1 writes:

Chrome - metal is very expensive to use it on the internal parts, and it is quite stable in its fortress ... more likely that still used nikilirovanie ...


Even in the video in Russian said first nickel and then chrome

http://zippocollector.ru/archives/592

so in essence you with merqury both right!

Merqury - Member

Samara, Russian Federation

10:36 - 24 February 2010

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All right, yours_truly, as far as I know, chromium never applied directly to the main surface. Just a while ago, caught the eye of the cycle peredachka American Chopper, that is ... There are just in a plating bath of a custom motorcycle parts "bathed". Details likely steel. So, at first covered with a layer of copper, then nickel, and only then the last - chrome. I on the box mixer Grohe (repair home with his wife do) also just shemka extolling their surface resistance, cutting - first brass (base material), then a relatively thick layer of nickel and then a thin film of chromium.

In the case of the insert, it is possible simply nickel is used, there are already professionals must ask. :-)

As for yellow - yes, indeed, it is very likely some electroplating, in my home watch "Victory" old lying, they have a yellow body, but obviously the steel, the passport is written, "covering the body - anodizing."


Sincerely yours, Merqury ...

yours_truly - Moderator

22:19 - 24 February 2010

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Message Edit 22:24 - February 24, 2010 user yours_truly


In principle, yes, insert goes into "naked" steel form, only if we are not talking about the yellow insert, where they cover something special vannah.no say for sure, no one will say, but specialists, well, because we are not experts, it also make sense to guess net.Sovremenny inserts made of steel and everything on it! .a then so can endlessly speculate!

at the expense of anodizing! anodizing, as I understand it, is the process of planting on the surface of the metal oxide layer, which protects the metal from korrozii.pri it is possible to obtain different colors! on most sites, this process is called color anodizing .only again all this to insert a direct is not relevant, because just say no one can, at least, of the participants, otherwise, I think these divinations that for coating inserts Zippo, would long ago have been ...

I suggest simply close this topic, because we found the most basic, and even delve into the details, it's just a plant worker in Bradford can say that and how! differently now begin the same as with a lid replica 41, and why and how ?!

kypexin - Administrator

22:43 - 24 February 2010

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Yeah yeah! Insert in your pants! :))))

faust - Maniac

Moscow

23:53 - 24 February 2010

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kypexin writes:

Yeah yeah! Insert in your pants! :))))


anodized)))

Merqury - Member

Samara, Russian Federation

10:05 - 25 February 2010

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oniks1 writes:

Anodizing - is a method of treating metal, not the coating. Information and descriptions on the Internet abound. And speaking of the insert, it is likely he did nothing covered - just steel. A film about Zippo, which speaks of the nickel plating, chrome plating and then, we are talking about the case.


Well, I say - some electroplating, about the way rather than material. There is already a need to carry out tests. :-)

And about the "uncovered" - quite possibly just on my particular instance it was too suspicious appearance at abrasions insert on bumps where it inside the body of shorkatsya - much like the fact that some wrought outer layer erased, not just polishing zatsarapalas. I would sfotkal, but at work fotika not, but at home too lazy ...:-)

As another factor in favor of this hypothesis - if the steel insert - "rzhaveyka", it needs some protective coating against corrosion.

kypexin - Administrator

10:13 - 25 February 2010

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Coverage of course there is, but I do not know what. But I know how inserts can rust! I have an old Zippo 1950s, which insert can not be removed in principle - rusty and "soured". And even if you do not bring to this state, it is still often possible to see the rust in the "tube".

Merqury - Member

Samara, Russian Federation

10:54 - 25 February 2010

Posts 141

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kypexin writes:

Coverage of course there is, but I do not know what. But I know how inserts can rust! I have an old Zippo 1950s, which insert can not be removed in principle - rusty and "soured". And even if you do not bring to this state, it is still often possible to see the rust in the "tube".


Duc zarzhavit anything can skillfully something. Bad is simple enough. :-)

slay - Expert

12:47 - 25 February 2010

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agree, depends on how to use =) You can carefully, because survive to this day in perfect condition Zippo mid-20th century, but you can not - and then one week can ruin irreversibly =)

yours_truly - Moderator

16:01 - 25 February 2010

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The insert is made of ordinary steel, it is not stainless steel, steel nerzhvaeyuschaya usually not magnet!

Merqury - Member

Samara, Russian Federation

16:23 - 25 February 2010

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yours_truly writes:

The insert is made of ordinary steel, it is not stainless steel, steel nerzhvaeyuschaya usually not magnet!


That's what I kakby allude to it.

slay - Expert

17:00 - 25 February 2010

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and sorry =)

Merqury - Member

Samara, Russian Federation

17:26 - 25 February 2010

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"Stainless" worse in terms of mechanical properties, in the treatment of complicated and expensive. So all right. :-)

yours_truly - Moderator

17:33 - 25 February 2010

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Для столь массового производства она, конечно, дороговата…

pashmyan - Гость

19:14 - Апрель 18, 2011

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А не подскажете, в серебрянных и золотых Zippo тоже стальные инсерты?

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

21:10 - Апрель 18, 2011

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Ну да стальные, серебро и золото слишком мягкие металлы, потому инсерты из них как из.. известной субстанции пуля.

ultrain - Expert

13:23 - Июнь 5, 2012

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хорошая информация, есть моменты, которые дополнили мои знания! Thank U.


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