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Scandal among the largest Ukrainian online auction aukro.ua and collector trademark brand Zippo

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ultrain - Expert

2:09 - 16 June 2012

166 posts

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I think so ... You're the seller, just as defending!)

First: the conversation was about the original, and I sneeze at how much lighter it is worth, just announced the price and promised the original, this is the problem the seller. Let him sell the liver, but keeps his word on the auction! And I sneezed on the reviews, everything there is positive, that means good marksman may miss, and that's hit a real collector and connoisseur ZIPPO, and not on the school and received a negative review!

Second: Free delivery is registered (not further specified what the transfer abroad), to discuss the purchases were-were! And said nothing, again, I bought the lot, there was shipping, I agreed, although he could refuse and immediately put a negative review for a left-wing movements in the transaction, but went to the world, and agreed!

Third: support acknowledged the illegality of actions in relation to the negative reviews seller, and removed it, and now there is talk in general about his removal to hell with the trading platform, once and for all. Expected of me confirm this item is not original!

The point in time and the response from the representatives of ZIPPO in Ukraine, Russia and the United States that sold me a lot Counterfeiting at what brazenly sold, after negotiations that will come ORIGINAL! And I put on who how much buying and selling, I'm not interested!

Posted by selling the original, the lot is perfectly clear ORIGINAL promised, and sent what the hell! If you are this is the same seller that so eagerly defending that very suspicious and can be seen on the face, then I advise you to samozablokirovatsya auction itself, or gotovsya to litigation, costs both from me and from the trading floor. (... As in his time, the company "TERVOLINA" which decided vparit me @ @ @ nude for the original! As a result, such as the hand came from me and from all mysliemyh and mysliemyh regulatory authorities, so far administrator salon at the sight of me frantically treset!)

... And you will have a long time to do his own lighters under its own brand! ...

In this topic if you notice there is a serious discussion, tips, and children, who decided to take it, it's not the place! Ades comrades!


ultrain - Expert

2:42 - 16 June 2012

166 posts

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For Robor2006, unless of course speak English, read at your leisure, come in handy!

Think next time before you write. One of the items and branding ZIPPO further liability "craftsmen" sell PODDELOCHKU branded ZIPPO!

II.THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO PROHIBIT SALES
1. Sales of counterfeit products; the misuse of Zippo trademarks and copyrights. Trademarks are used to identify goods and services and to distinguish them from others. The Zippo marks include the famous ZIPPO brand name in various designs and formats and other names and marks, such as the shape of the Zippo windproof lighter and the Flame Logo, that are used as trademarks to identify lighters and other goods as originating from ZMC. The use of a trademark, without authorization, which is substantially identical to a trademark validly registered in respect of such goods, or which cannot be distinguished in its essential aspects from such a trademark for identifying products not originating from the ZMC, is counterfeiting. Counterfeiting is a serious infringement of trademark law and may such use be subject to criminal sanctions as well.

Framing of, or linkage to any Zippo website, or use of any photographs, trademarks, designs or texts contained therein, without the express written consent of ZMC, is also an infringement of ZMC's copyright and trademark rights.

"Keyword spamming" is another example of the misuse of trademarks. Keyword spamming is a search engine optimization technique that uses, often as a metatag, the trademark / brand name of another product in an effort to divert customers to one's own product offering and is an infringement of the rights of the trademark owner.

2. Sales of other brands of lighters that have the shape of the Zippo windproof lighter

As mentioned above, ZMC has a trademark registration in the USA and in many other countries which protects the highly distinctive shape of its windproof lighter with its characteristic arcuate top ("Shape Mark"). Other products, not necessarily only lighters, which have this shape, infringe this Shape Mark. The scope of protection of the Shape Mark is not limited to any particular size.

ZMC takes action against products which bear a shape substantially identical to the one protected with the Shape Mark, including its characteristic arcuate top.

3.Unauthorized alteration, decoration, engraving of Zippo lighters and sales of Zippo lighters that have been engraved, decorated or otherwise altered without ZMC's consent, infringe it's trademark rights. Specifically, the alteration, decoration, engraving and sale of Zippo lighters, using images and designs that have not been authorized by ZMC, directly infringes Zippo's trademark rights. Furthermore, the use of the ZIPPO name and of the famous registered Zippo lighter shape in auction website listings, including those on eBay, without ZMC's consent, are also infringements. Such infringements are likely to cause consumers to be deceived into believing that these offered products are authorized, approved, or in some other way associated with ZMC. They are not. The unauthorized alteration or decoration of a Zippo windproof lighter has rendered it to be no longer genuine.

In addition, the decoration of Zippo lighters with images and designs not approved by ZMC is likely to tarnish the reputation of the ZIPPO trademark which for some eighty years has been perceived as an All-American icon. The Zippo brand is associated with the images that ZMC selects and affixes on them in its sole discretion. ZMC owes to its customers and to the many collectors of its Zippo windproof lighters the assurance of the integrity and authenticity of the designs and decorations on a Zippo windproof lighter.

For any of the above reasons, ZMC will demand that the commercial seller of such products cease & desist all such activities without any further delay. If such seller does not comply, ZMC will take whatever action is legally appropriate to enforce its legal rights.

botas - Expert

3:10 - 16 June 2012

530 posts

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Message Edit 3:19 - June 16, 2012 Members botas


ultrain writes:


WHAT TO EXPECT ZIPPO COLLECTOR'S LARGEST ONLINE AUCTIONS HOW COLLECTOR MAY NOT BE PROTECTED FROM MOSHEYNICHESTVA, fakes? HOW TO PROTECT CONSUMER RIGHTS PROTECTION OR NOT SUPPORT THE LARGEST ONLINE AUCTION?


The largest online auction where the buyer is protected by more than the seller, in fact, the only - ebay. This is not only the deaf hear (and that navryadli). The fact that you bought something falling apart in your hands on some auction - is your boner in your "zone of responsibility".

On ibee nesk years ago, one Asian persistently selling fake Zippo type of the Vietnam War in the different versions housing for 100 bucks, that's just no one bought it.

Going back to your words:

"But if we stop to think how many online Mosheyniki-SELLERS? Do we reflect how our rights are protected by the biggest online auction site? Of course not! "

Well, of course yes! WE - reflect. Just do not be like that categorically state that we do not think. If you decide not to think about "how many online Mosheyniki-sellers", that does not mean that so do we. It's a shame that you have bought a pig in a poke, and even the dead, but to wash there brains respected public known methods of forming public opinion is not worth it. Like screaming in the subject header.


ultrain - Expert

3:53 - 16 June 2012

166 posts

34

So gentlemen collectors letter sent successfully:

1) In the company Zippo,

2) In the company "KOROLUS"

3) In the company "to stencil"

(Manufacturer brand ZIPPO-exclusive and official representatives ZIPPO in Russia and the Ukraine) in 3 languages ​​with nested detailed photos and all the information for official confirmation that sold me the lighter is a fake!

We are waiting for an answer, and then given an official confirmation, I will send to the service pozhdderzhki http://aukro.ua , which is waiting for official confirmation to take final action regarding bezpovorotno and seller-Mosheyniki!

ultrain - Expert

4:12 - 16 June 2012

166 posts

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Message Edit 4:29 - June 16, 2012 Members ultrain


, а не аукциончик или салончик или интернет-магазинчик! botas largest pro, I took it with their descriptions ( http://aukro.ua/country_pages/ ..... / about.php ), so that in the future for legal affairs, lawsuits, I did not say that "we" in Here I'm talking about the auction, called the largest, not auktsionchik or salonchik or online store! because I have a lot of experience in legal practice where I lost a few times the process, but because of something that is prescribed the company's name is not correct. For example: Auction "Uncle Bob" and auction "Uncle Bob."

About the "We" (now I'm talking about people), I do not in any way affect our collectors and experts, people with experience and collectors with names and universally as a whole (our population of the world) as one visitor wrote above Robor2006, that bought everything and no one has put a negative review, they say you found here connoisseur ZIPPO.

About the cat in the bag, you're right, and I agree with you at 100%, because in 99% of cases, no one is safe, that the purchaser will send gomno (not blatantly lie, promise that everything will be at its best, only the original, do not see what is in the lot, just to snatch what bubble and send the devil knows what, the seller promised but not fulfilled, regardless of the value of the lot-let has the lock on the auction!), if also will be sent, there are times when I personally sent the seller for the lot at the auction, though not a lot of money, but the seller was lost. Yes, it's over in our world mosheynichestva there and established vendors. I personally would say to myself, Never break a deal, even if in some cases, the deal is going to me in the negative, I'm being honest to the last as the seller and the buyer. There are vendors who write honestly, none of my photos, lot can master can not, hard to say, and when the seller that you write copy, apologize and make the correction. This same seller has received a letter from me, that he is selling a fake, but responded, "they say none of your business, you could sell it and sell it to others," and I personally want priostonovit principle activity of the seller! Let's at this price, if brazen Mosheyniki, which not only sells fakes, and even after the purchase price changes twice. without a twinge of conscience! Only in person can be visualized all the probe, see and buy, or refuse! That, in principle, I always do.

xidemonix - Expert

Moscow, Russia

7:42 - 16 June 2012

327 posts

36

Yes, there were people in our time,
Not that the current tribe:
The heroes - not us!
Bad they got beat:
Not many have returned from the field ...
Were it not for God willing,
Do not buy used Zipari!

Muratof - Member

18:39 - 16 June 2012

Posts 40

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Message Edit 0:42 - June 17, 2012 user Muratof



I want to support ultrain, as well! If people see that for vparivaniya in our auctions, frank lazhi, does not threaten any responsibility, the number of scams will only grow. In this case the buyer does not have to remain vigilant and every possible way to check the purchased item, but the Khitan consumer goods does not sleep, and soon, even the most advanced experts will not be able to distinguish from The Original Fake. If the seller is pushing a fake, he must indicate that it is a fake, and do not fuck up like a character Galustjana and yell - "Who did this?". Dmitri (if not mistaken), good luck in this case ungrateful!


ultrain - Expert

2:02 - 17 June 2012

166 posts

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Message Edit 2:03 - June 17, 2012 user ultrain


Muratof Thank you for your support! (Yes, quite right, Dmitri)

That's just the salt, I would have said nothing, and would not go on the principle of getting gomno when promised the original, if the seller has apologized for such a sale and would correct in his description of the item. So no, he told me initially soldered a negative review, saying such as do not like it, eat all gomno and refused this, and still not a correct description of the lot, they say you promised and sent the devil knows that others will buy as pretty. There should be put against the wall and shot without mercy! I will not speak for others, but which would not have been, I still gave the money! And when the price suddenly doubled podskachila I also did not break off the deal and was waiting for the promise of the original!

So now waiting for an official response from the representatives and the company ZIPPO, let's see what they will say! Well, in any case, negotiating with customer support more than one day, I proved the illegality of the negative reviews of the seller, and it has removed support, now is the question of lock to hell Mosheyniki this, let there be at least one less will be another easier buy!

botas - Expert

2:20 - 17 June 2012

530 posts

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Muratof writes:

Message Edit 0:42 - June 17, 2012 user Muratof


If the seller is pushing a fake, he must indicate that it is a fake


And as he then sell?

Muratof - Member

4:02 - 17 June 2012

Posts 40

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Message edited 17:27 - June 17, 2012 user Muratof


botas writes:


And as he then sell?


There are lots of people, and I think everyone who collects such Zippo met who do not care about the original Zippo Fake or good. If the seller indicates that sells good analog Zippo costs are several times cheaper than the original, I think there will be buyers. But in a brazen push the price of the original analogue, while arguing that it is original to tear his shirt, causing a strong desire podrihtovat shape of the face of this seller. But still, this policy should be carried out in the first place themselves auctions at the same Avito, "cores" on offer 1500R. Unit and not a word about the craftsmen from high places.


ultrain - Expert

10:43 - 17 June 2012

166 posts

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Muratof writes:

botas writes:


And as he then sell?


There are lots of people, and I think everyone who collects such Zippo met who do not care about the original Zippo Fake or good. If the seller indicates that sells good analog Zippo costs are several times cheaper than the original, I think there will be buyers. But in a brazen push the price of the original analogue, while arguing that it is original to tear his shirt, causing a strong desire podrihtovat shape of the face of this seller. But still, this policy should be carried out in the first auction themselves on that same Avito "cores" on offer 1500R. Unit and not a word about the craftsmen from high places.


... After I got the cigarette lighter in the mail, the mat was and indignation, but I decided to write a respectful seller that he still has corrected a lot that sells PODDELOCHKU, but was refused: ".. they say the type that I want, and sell what you want, and I promise to customers ... ", then I have not only appeared at that time desire podrehtovat seller feys ....

ultrain - Expert

3:10 - 19 June 2012

166 posts

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к омпании ООО “СТЕНС-К” , где они готовы подтвердить официально, что проданная мне зажигалка под брендом ZIPPO - самая наихудшая поделка! Gentlemen collectors ... so, today I received a reply from the official representative of the American firm ZIPPO Ukraine - COMP ANIES Ltd. "Stanciu-K", where they are ready to confirm officially that sold me a lighter brand ZIPPO - is the worst hack! Well done, answered very promptly. I wait at least another letter from the company ZIPPO, I will not wait long. и пришлют письмо от самой ZIPPO, отошлю потом и в ZIPPO, в таком случае служба поддержки интернет-аукциона http://aukro.ua от меня получит уже 2 официальных подтверждения проданной мне подделки! In the extreme case, if I will send to Ukraine to ompany Ltd. "Stanciu-K" and send the letter by itself ZIPPO, and then I will send a ZIPPO, in this case, support online auction http://aukro.ua from me will have 2 official confirmation sold me a fake! Time customer support to an official letter to block a sales Mosheyniki, receive official confirmation! I am a collector will not tolerate that copies brazenly sold under the brand name ZIPPO!


Robor2006 - Member

Krasnodon, Ukraine

0:03 - 20 June 2012

Posts 23

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Message Edit 0:06 - June 20, 2012 Members Robor2006


Dear Dmitry, I see you do not always adequately perceive criticism.

First: I'm not the seller (and generally not the seller), and support you in an effort to punish the seller of counterfeit goods, but you are unlikely to punish auction is not able to punish the administration of the market for sale in the market of Chinese goods with international brands.

Second: the question of the number of reviews, not to what you have written a negative review (1 of 329), but to the auction that the administration is looking at the number and quality of reviews, so the first answer is quite predictable and the administration expected.

Thirdly, I repeat, the fault lies with the seller as well as for you, you do not even bother to ask our experts, not to mention the additional photo. understand you do not even appear any suspicion about the authenticity of the lighter despite her price and model that you see for the first time, it reminds me of the situation with thimbles-'ve all heard, everyone knows, but still people are located who are trying to beat the bully.

I understand "And I sneezed on reviews that are all there positive," you probably just sneezed on the opinions of all, so you find it hard to ask for advice from people in the know, you have acquired as a result of the continuation of your poddelku.Vot expression:
"And I sneezed on the reviews, everything there is positive, that means good marksman may miss, and that's hit a real collector and connoisseur ZIPPO, and not on the school and received a negative review" "A real collector" is underlined.

And now a couple of quotes:

from botas - Expert:

"WE - reflect. Just do not be like that categorically state that we do not think. If you decide not to think about "how many online Mosheyniki-sellers", that does not mean that so do we. It's a shame that you have bought a pig in a poke, and even the dead, but to wash there brains respected public known methods of forming public opinion is not worth it. Like screaming in the subject header. "

from Gorynych5 - Moderator:

"A couple of tips. Do not abuse Kapslok and color scheme of the text, try to avoid spelling errors. I write this not as a fan of modernization or graceful slovestnosti. Just competent speech, it will position you for the maximum number of online readers, respectively, and will support a maximum. "

And finally, my advice to you, raise the culture of dialogue, I mean your "in this thread if you notice there is a serious discussion, tips, and children, who decided to take it, it's not the place! Ades comrades! "

By your reaction, response and expressions, you are much closer to the students!

PS fraudster, not Mosheyniki.

By the way on many sites, write CBSA, color (especially red) are eligible only by curators, administrators and moderatory.Kstati on these sites and the prohibition of the use of mats podonkovsoy vocabulary mat for permanent ban.


Being sober, putting into practice all their drunken promises - this will teach you to keep your mouth shut. © Ernest Hemingway.

Robor2006 - Member

Krasnodon, Ukraine

0:18 - 20 June 2012

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Message Edit 0:24 - June 20, 2012 Members Robor2006


And for the future, as it is not sure if:

http://zippocollector.ru/forum ..... / topic-860

http://zippocollector.ru/forum ..... / topic-940

http://zippocollector.ru/forum ..... n/zippo-70

Being sober, putting into practice all their drunken promises - this will teach you to keep your mouth shut. © Ernest Hemingway.

ultrain - Expert

2:24 - 20 June 2012

166 posts

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Message Edit 2:27 - June 20, 2012 Members ultrain



Robor2006

1) Thank you for moralizing, but from the school period, I have long departed!

2) I blocked and not with such a top seller - scam, you probably realized how little I buy at auctions. Administration of purple on the rating as a seller, and the buyer!

2) Regarding the purchase, read again carefully why I bought it, and that I promised to the seller. Perhaps if the seller said, to sell something that is laid out in the lot, I passed! And not bred on our site questions about anything, robbing people precious time! Since I am very familiar with the ZIPPO.

3) Regarding chihov and Pyhov, again: "Read again carefully, if you find it hard to understand the meaning."   Let me explain:   the point is that you present your me, they say the seller all the positive reviews and I say such a bad bet is negative. Yes, staged, and rightly so! And I sneezed on the seller, the seller is! If he has a rating that I have to raise him to the rank of "Deity"? As for our team, then obviously you are not observant, I doubt it and I need some advice - I'm asking, and very respectful attitude to people, if I'm not rude and do not write what I'm bad, I did right!

4) As for as I write, I, probably, in any case, listen to our administrators and moderators and the comments get permission from them for their mistakes and the publication of a controversial topic.

5) Thanks for the link, their will not spread, would be too long!)


xidemonix - Expert

Moscow, Russia

5:22 - 20 June 2012

327 posts

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ultrain writes:

Message Edit 2:27 - June 20, 2012 Members ultrain


Since I am very familiar with the ZIPPO.


Probably not much, just bought this crap and now pytaetsya become a star so to speak, "youtube" as much as 3 countries.

Quote of the day, like in the topic: "How well are you from? My mother is such a good pro-locomotive sings "(C)

ultrain - Expert

5:50 - 20 June 2012

166 posts

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Well ... do you always raise your spirits! Nah, on the "YouTube is still too early")))

- "Sometimes a dog's sense of smell brings"-I do not remember any of the domestic film.

xidemonix - Expert

Moscow, Russia

6:11 - 20 June 2012

327 posts

48

yes without any hard feelings, really clean to set the mood)) look at the subject, the text a lot, too lazy to read all the words)) but as I see there are already given due response from the Ukrainian Zippo

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

13:24 - 20 June 2012

Posts 1860

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Dmitry, well done, that you go to the end! I respect. Success.

ultrain - Expert

18:40 - 20 June 2012

166 posts

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Message edited 23:23 - June 21, 2012 Members ultrain


где после получения моего письма, компании ZIPPO очень трудно было переработать отправленную всю мою информацию на русском языке. Today I received a letter back from the official representative of the American firm ZIPPO Ukraine - COMP ANIES Ltd. "Stanciu-K", where, after receiving my letter of ZIPPO very difficult to recycle sent all my information in Russian. Although the letter I wrote to them in English, but apparently attached to the letter of information was shed too much and the company decided to work with ZIPPO Ltd. "Stanciu-K" for a more detailed translation of the essence of writing. Now the company "stencil to" officially preparing a translation of all the information and make sense to the company detailing ZIPPO. на Украине - к омпании ООО “СТЕНС-К” , но и от самой компании ZIPPO, что проданная мне зажигалки подделка, а продавец-мошейник! So I have the opportunity, get an expert official findings not only from the official representative of the American firm ZIPPO Ukraine - COMP ANIES Ltd. "Stanciu-K", but also on the company ZIPPO, that sold me a fake cigarette lighters, and the seller-Mosheyniki! I think after the receipt of such documents, customer support will have to block once and for all this seller Mosheyniki all-out   "E-Commerce Group" which includes not only http://molotok.ru and http://aukro.ua and many other Internet sites.


ultrain - Expert

18:44 - 20 June 2012

166 posts

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... Never thought I will have to turn to so that's View Manufacturers and official representatives of the brand ZIPPO ...

ultrain - Expert

16:50 - 17 August 2012

166 posts

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... So the Lord collectors, after a detailed documentation and communication with ZIPPO official representative in Ukraine, sending most lighters, which sold me on the internet-auction as genuine (though was a forgery) ZIPPO took a little time!

The other day I received in the mail an expert opinion (the answer from the official representative of the American firm ZIPPO Ukraine - COMP ANIES Ltd. "Stanciu-K").

Also asked the company "to stencil" that they attached to the document image, and scan the very sold me a counterfeit-lighters, as then it will be sent to the expert conclusion on, the administration of the online auction auko.ua

As far as the official representative in the Russian company "KOROLUS" (Russian is the exclusive representative of U.S. firms "ZIPPO Manufacturing Company"), then the response from them so I can not wait!

The company itself ZIPPO I did not answer, but quickly turned for accurate translation into English and the exact meaning of the concept of LLC "Stencil-K", and the staff kept me up to date! I think if a single expert opinion online auction auko.ua is small, then there is going to ask me to send an expert opinion from the company ZIPPO.

At this point, I think it appropriate to send an expert opinion from an official representative of the American company ZIPPO Ukraine - COMP ANIES Ltd. "Stanciu-K"   Ukrainian online auction, so there was no Badanov as auction is presented in the Ukraine!

Also   VERY NICE   was surprised when dealing with employees COMP ANIES Ltd. "Stanciu-K"   When asked how much it would cost a small repair inserts, and received the answer that you insert will be replaced free of charge under the warranty!

So here's the news, I know, very many were waiting for the continuation of this theme, I will not list ....)

Next, spread the screens, the aforementioned confirmation of my words!

chaa174 - Expert

17:23 - 17 August 2012

503 posts

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envy. korolus in Russia ... that asshole

ultrain - Expert

1:42 - August 18, 2012

166 posts

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... Do not understand, and to envy???

Since I buy and the fact that fraud Ukrainian online auction,

I decided to give the expert a formal representative of the American company ZIPPO in Ukraine - the company "Stencil-K."

There would be such a problem in Russia, with Russian online auction, with the same molotok.ru, I would have just went to the company "Korolus"   (Russia is the exclusive representative of U.S. firms "ZIPPO Manufacturing Company").

Would have such a problem with foreign online auction, believe me, to us "ZIPPO" to reach, or at least right in Branford would go.

If you bring the case before the end. Just a little not understand the policy of "Korolus" I turned to him with a problem, and in response to the silence, but I will now know who and how to fulfill its representational duties! COMP ANIES LLC "stencil" onto all 200% compliance with its obligations as maintenance, as well as the legal support. Upon receipt of all the documents and I will personally write to the company "Zippo" and I will express my gratitude as a collector of high competence COMP ANIES Ltd. "Stanciu-K."

  Also, the interest in this case has attracted some media, which will also be commented on by all of this, the topic, but at the end, when the result is known.

Let's see how he would react online auction auko.ua after receipt of all the documents to which they referred, there is allegedly no more hard evidence on my part, but to my personal opinions on what sold me fake!

chaa174 - Expert

7:14 - August 18, 2012

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What ... what have written that korolus not even answer ..

ultrain - Expert

18:26 - 21 August 2012

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Well ... yes ... of course, a bit frustrating that the official representative in Russia and scored! ((

One of these days must obtain a corrected expert conclusion of the company "to stencil"   where in addition to imprisonment, will be even lighter picture, I think it will be right!

Then to the administration of the online auction   auko.ua, did not say: ".... and where the photo that it is to sell you a lighter, you sent for examination ..."

Attached is a document that will soon come to me:

ultrain - Expert

11:28 - 19 October 2012

166 posts

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Good morning to all fans and collectors of the brand ZIPPO our site!

After a protracted trip, I finally returned home, where I was expecting the premise of the company "stencil to the" official representative of the American company ZIPPO Ukraine.

So now in turn:

Briefly about all the scandal:

As a collector of me on the internet auction auko.ua was sold a fake, although the seller claimed that sells only original products under the trademark ZIPPO. After receipt of the purchase, I found that I did not sell genuine products ZIPPO and asked for support and administration of the online auction auko.ua, to protect my rights as a customer, providing quite doskanalno sold me a comparison between the fake and the original ZIPPO. In consequence of the proceedings does not support pridprinila any action with respect to this Mosheyniki and asked me to provide expert conclusion from the manufacturer or authorized representative of the trademark ZIPPO! I contacted the manufacturer and officials ZIPPO and the first ever responded to my emails official representative of the American company ZIPPO in Ukraine - the company "Stencil-K." Next is deducted from them, I explained all the problems, and then sent me a fake sold to the examination, after learning I was receive a confirmation back with my fake EKSPERNOYM prisoners.


I also want to thank the company LLC "Stencil-K" for the 100% support of the trademark ZIPPO in full. Namely, that the owners of ZIPPO lighters have a lifetime warranty on all consumables. In my case was sent to a sloamnny insert, namely the loop was broken for the wick (eyelet) (If you look at the top of his Zippo, you will see that the wick sticks out is not "out of nowhere", and stretched in a beautiful metallic ring. Here it is precisely the loop for a wick).


So the company "Stencil-K" sent to replace the old inserts two new inserts, photo to confirm:


Then this whole scandalous case is going to write in support and administration of online auction auko.ua, c providing expert advice to completely block this Mosheyniki seller who sold me a fake, passing it off as original purchase of the brand ZIPPO.

The further development of this issue as possible will keep you up to date!


I ask the administration of the site (Vladimir Mihnovich) issue fitsialnogo address of the representative of the American company ZIPPO in Ukraine - the company "Stencil-K" in a prominent place on the site.

Address:

03056, Ukraine, Kyiv, str. Hetman, 27

Tel / Fax: (44) 536-00-28

Tel. (44) 457-1000

E-mail: zippo@ua.fm

kypexin - Administrator

11:49 - 19 October 2012

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ultrain writes:

I ask the administration of the site (Vladimir Mihnovich) issue of the official address of the representative of a U.S. company ZIPPO in Ukraine - the company "Stencil-K" in a prominent place on the site.


For what purpose? :)

Voronov - Moderator

12:22 - 19 October 2012

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Volodya about "the most prominent places" this fellow got a little excited, but to include the address of the Russian and Ukrainian representative offices in the FAQ would be useful, IMHO.

kypexin - Administrator

12:53 - 19 October 2012

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Voronov says:

Volodya about "the most prominent places" this fellow got a little excited, but to include the address of the Russian and Ukrainian representative offices in the FAQ would be useful, IMHO.


I hear the voice of reason :) Ok, I'll do a page! Thanks for the idea!


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