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The question of the authenticity of lighters

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Deniss - Member

Engels

12:15 - 5 June 2012

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Message Edit 18:41 - June 5, 2012 user Deniss


Good afternoon.

Recently ordered from here the lighter Zippo Black Ice with engraving (performed directly by the store).

Began to doubt the authenticity because poloho stamped on the insert row (last), due to the fact that the body inside is very dirty, and insert scratching, plus cover a little unsteady and scratch a windshield at closing. Maybe this is acceptable? Or is it a fake ?!

Below is a lot of photos. I hope you can help me =)

kypexin - Administrator

12:21 - 5 June 2012

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Everything is permissible. Lighter authentic.

Deniss - Member

Engels

18:46 - 5 June 2012

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Message Edit 18:51 - June 5, 2012 user Deniss


Clear. thanks for the answer!

Also bespokoet still is that sometimes when the scroll wheel, as it were "jammed", you need to scroll it with the effort ... Flint original (complete).

And one more thing, so to speak, paranoid that if xA Since Floor Black Ice - thin coating, it is quite quickly began to cover the scratches. Do Winners lighters with the same surface? What it looks like over time?

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

19:40 - 5 June 2012

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The original flint usually starts "jam" when coming to an end. If so, then the solution is obvious: to replace a new one if it is not, there are doubts about the originality of the flint.

dreamwork - Expert

Ukraine

19:46 - 5 June 2012

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If flint new, something a little pozaedaet and pass. Covering black ice is cleared relatively quickly and began to lighten a little lighter.

Deniss - Member

Engels

20:08 - 5 June 2012

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dreamwork writes:

Covering black ice is cleared relatively quickly and began to lighten a little lighter.


Interestingly, I think, too much worse Lighter look will not. Some write that she finds his "second" life ... But what if at the expense of laser engraving (not officially)? I do not in this boom boom, what's the thickness of the coating, and how deep engraving itself. That is not "peel off" if she and Black ICEom?

kypexin - Administrator

20:12 - 5 June 2012

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Deniss writes:

dreamwork writes:

Covering black ice is cleared relatively quickly and began to lighten a little lighter.


Interestingly, I think, too much worse Lighter look will not. Some write that she finds his "second" life ... But what if at the expense of laser engraving (not officially)? I do not in this boom boom, what's the thickness of the coating, and how deep engraving itself. That is not "peel off" if she and Black ICEom?


The depth of the engraving by the way can be different, and it is necessary to ask those who inflicted it. By the way there is a slight chance that the coating with it can really get down, or at least strongly erased.

Deniss - Member

Engels

20:30 - 5 June 2012

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Message Edit 21:01 - June 5, 2012 by user


That's what I'm afraid of.

Reassure ourselves that, as can be seen, the metal (and by the way of which the body is made?) Laser bleached, hardly could be done with a thin, legkosterayuschimsya coating. Yes, and there is a roughness to the touch in the engraving ...

kypexin - Administrator

20:36 - 5 June 2012

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Deniss writes:

Message Edit 20:31 - June 5, 2012 user Deniss


That's what I'm afraid of.

Reassure ourselves that, as can be seen, the metal (and by the way of which the body is made?) Laser bleached, hardly could be done with a thin, legkosterayuschimsya coating. Yes, and there is a roughness to the touch in the engraving ...


Brass body, her top finish.

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

20:43 - 5 June 2012

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Message Edit 20:44 - June 5, 2012 user Gorynych5


kypexin writes:

Deniss writes:

Message Edit 20:31 - June 5, 2012 user Deniss


That's what I'm afraid of.

Reassure ourselves that, as can be seen, the metal (and by the way of which the body is made?) Laser bleached, hardly could be done with a thin, legkosterayuschimsya coating. Yes, and there is a roughness to the touch in the engraving ...


Brass body, her top finish.


It seems there is a double cover, first conventional nickel-plated (chrome), and then he Black Ice. Not?

kypexin - Administrator

20:47 - 5 June 2012

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Gorynych5 writes:

Message Edit 20:44 - June 5, 2012 user Gorynych5


It seems there is a double cover, first conventional nickel-plated (chrome), and then he Black Ice. Not?


And that's what I do not know. Maybe the way!

Deniss - Member

Engels

20:42 - June 6, 2012

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Message Edit 20:58 - June 6, 2012 user Deniss


Gorynych5 writes:

It seems there is a double cover, first conventional nickel-plated (chrome), and then he Black Ice. Not?


Correct a little bit, in that case the brass body triple coating: Stage 1 - nickel, then chrome (it's not the same thing), and finally, Black Ice layer (technology PVD).

Sources: here and here .

PS: I think to change the filler. Three days ago, filled it Newportom the eyeballs, now flame lukewarm. Now I think that it is better: regular wool or as many recommend a tampon? Big difference? Fortunately, there is someone skomunizdit ...

Gorynych5 - Maniac

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20:45 - June 6, 2012

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Deniss writes:

Gorynych5 writes:

It seems there is a double cover, first conventional nickel-plated (chrome), and then he Black Ice. Not?


Correct a little bit, in that case the brass body triple coating: Stage 1 - nickel, then chrome (it's not the same thing), and finally, Black Ice layer (technology PVD).

Sources: here and here .


Thank you, I will consider.)

Deniss - Member

Engels

16:44 - June 7, 2012

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Taki natolkal in lighter cotton from the swab, only xs, prolong service life ... Is Purely tactile sensations, it is the same as the factory packing. When compared to the conventional (pharmacy) wool, this resembles sintipon. I think maybe because of the placement of fibers (one to one, rarely intertwine). Purely my opinion, let's see what will happen in reality (pour Newport, in my city do not find the original, but there are in the nearby. Does it make sense because of him tear ass?

chaa174 - Expert

16:57 - June 7, 2012

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Message Edit 17:03 - June 7, 2012 user chaa174


you are my friend made me smile.

what game is this and lighter.

if they hand curves and straight, for the second year, some bugs and glitches, what do you want from Zippo with their logo? she's all their karma gomosyachyu absorb. and shimming, kosyachny work, a sense of incompleteness ... nothing except reminded?

zvinyayte for offtopic, but the truth is no arguing against.

coverage is relatively new, according to statistics, it is no normal. plus a constant change of technology is at the factory improvements. but promise strength is not particularly inferior to the classical.

engraved by the way normal people at the plant bought. is it even worth nothing,) but it's normal people ...

with cotton in Zippo not perverted, native packing in the control was quite kosher. but in the IMCO result was evident. wadding tampon if its stuff without fanaticism sooo still significantly adds fuel amount is absorbed. the most important thing is not to overdo with the density. you need to find the middle ground where the density wool only enough to keep the petrol that it did not flow down, and felt this would help.

gasoline sense to bother I do not see - how much has not changed newport original ... well, the original sympathetic better. color of the flame temperature and cleaner can higher ... for a couple of dozen :) enough for half a day longer ... :) in general the same only in profile. Only zippovsky benz from what it is worth 2.5 - 3 times more expensive.

Deniss - Member

Engels

17:10 - June 7, 2012

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Heh heh, thanks for the answer =)

Not immediately doper that early post about the game it is ... thinking about Zippo manufacturing xD

Well, the taste and color, as they say. My game is large enough, it's time. And it is a gift - two =)

chaa174 - Expert

17:42 - June 7, 2012

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if the gift is - by definition better not to bother.

I've been presented with a replica 1941 when I, too, when he saw the engraving is a little unhappy with was (I do not like all sorts of letters and painting). well as the functional - Zippo and no one will take away.

yes, even when laying cotton wick and recommend to stack correctly - the "snake", passing between the layers of wool. wick burn slightly if the flame will not burn long.

and gasoline. remembered once was a sinner - what that poison poured in 30 re for butylek (zadolbalsya look normal - was nowhere to be) - not much filling enough even for a shorter time.

Deniss - Member

Engels

19:49 - June 7, 2012

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chaa174 writes:

yes, even when laying cotton wick and recommend to stack correctly - the "snake", passing between the layers of wool. wick burn slightly if the flame will not burn long.


At I know immediately so did, and then when you first open the wick at all was in the corner of wool pinned ...

chaa174 writes:

and gasoline. remembered once was a sinner - what that poison poured in 30 re for butylek (zadolbalsya look normal - was nowhere to be) - not much filling enough even for a shorter time.


Not, God forbid, then another, and will stink that would have changed the entire pack. I will continue to use Newport.

kypexin - Administrator

9:14 - 8 June 2012

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Deniss writes:

Message Edit 20:58 - June 6, 2012 user Deniss


Correct a little bit, in that case the brass body triple coating: Stage 1 - nickel, then chrome (it's not the same thing), and finally, Black Ice layer (technology PVD).

Sources: here and here .


Oh by the way. zippo.ru more long've stole this stuff from our site including images, and do not bother to even put a link :))) http://zippocollector.ru/archives/2709

Cute, is not it? :)

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

10:00 - June 8, 2012

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Message Edit 10:01 - June 8, 2012 user Gorynych5


And this is not an isolated case. Seen articles that have completely copied from our website, on the other Russian and Ukrainian resursah.Paru times even entertained friends dialogue:

-Taaaak, Open the site hhhh.uuu, seen Silver Plate? I have the equipped.

-Think, Me too rare.

You do not understand. It is a one to one. (Out of the box is removed and mashed Venitsiano offered for Comparison with photos)

-Huyasse. And if they sue?

Is my name Don Quixote? Like no ...


something like that, yes ..

kypexin - Administrator

10:12 - June 8, 2012

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Yes, the contents of the site that went all over the internet, this just is not surprising. I'm not even worried about it, it only tells about the quality :)

But the materials I stole the official Russian site ZIPPO !!!!!!!!!! (By the way there is to "all the directories zippo" - in it, too, more than 20 files stolen from here: http://zippocollector.ru/zippo-Catalogs ). Stolen = copied and delivered to the site without reference.

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

10:14 - June 8, 2012

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kypexin writes:

Yes, the contents of the site that went all over the internet, this just is not surprising. I'm not even worried about it, it only tells about the quality :)

But the materials I stole the official Russian site ZIPPO !!!!!!!!!! (By the way there is to "all the directories zippo" - in it, too, more than 20 files stolen from here: http://zippocollector.ru/zippo-Catalogs ). Stolen = copied and delivered to the site without reference.


keyword RUSSIAN))))))))

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

12:33 - June 8, 2012

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kypexin writes:

I'm not even worried about it, it only tells about the quality :)


I absolutely agree. You Volodya and Moderator Vash_Truli wrote a lot of unique articles in Russian. It is a pity that you did not have enough time to spread interesting with lots AUCTION. With great interest read-watched this column.

Deniss - Member

Engels

13:05 - June 8, 2012

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Offtopic-question:

I want to buy a lighter zippo armour 169, interested in two questions:

1) an insert made of brass or a sputtering?

2) is it possible to polish the casing from scratches, does not oxidize any metal? Is there a protective spray?


If not difficult to advise a certified (!) Online shop that would be pre-paid and delivery of "Mail of Russia"

Deniss - Member

Engels

13:07 - June 8, 2012

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Message Edit 13:49 - June 8, 2012 user Deniss


Or maybe someone here sells lighters in stock is 169? Would not mind ...

Awaiting order here. Best store that found the more it is referenced by the official website and "Korolus."

And something. I do not quite understand, not to cover Armorov Kotz leans? Specifically, in 169 models.

Just different pictures of different ways, there may be doing to her that this ... due to what the actual cap is maintained in this position?

evenk - Expert

Moscow region

13:41 - June 8, 2012

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Insert-just napylenie.Korpus oxidized, yet as oxidized.

Deniss - Member

Engels

13:52 - June 8, 2012

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evenk writes:

Insert-just napylenie.Korpus oxidized, yet as oxidized.


And oxidation is easily polished? vsmysle need to polish on the disc \ by hand (well, GOI there or something like that ...), or rather the right cloth to rub.

I want it such as uncoated and it is possible at the right moment and a new zapolirovat =)

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

13:58 - June 8, 2012

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You are probably not quite right understand what Armor. Casing thickness is 1.5 times the material is the same as that of the same in appearance model. Brass or silver model Sterling. Hinges and insert identical simple lighters.

evenk - Expert

Moscow region

13:58 - June 8, 2012

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Message Edit 13:59 - June 8, 2012 user evenk


I, however, 168 Brushed Brass, a desire-brush eraser, then soft tryapochkoy.Na some time saves presentation.

kypexin - Administrator

14:15 - June 8, 2012

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Deniss writes:

If not difficult to advise a certified (!) Online shop that would be pre-paid and delivery of "Mail of Russia"


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