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The question of the authenticity of lighters

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Deniss - Member

g.Engels

12:15 - 5 June 2012

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Message edited 18:41 - June 5, 2012 user Deniss


Good afternoon.

Recently ordered from here Zippo Black Ice lighter engraved (performed directly by the store).

Began to doubt the authenticity because poloho stamped on the insert row (last), because the body is very dirty inside and insert scratching, plus a little unsteady and cover scratch a windshield at closing. Maybe this is acceptable? Or is it a fake?

Below is a lot of photos. I hope you can help me =)

kypexin - Administrator

12:21 - 5 June 2012

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Everything is permissible. Lighter authentic.

Deniss - Member

g.Engels

18:46 - 5 June 2012

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Message edited 18:51 - June 5, 2012 user Deniss


Clear. thanks for the answer!

Also bespokoet still is that sometimes when the scroll wheel like "jammed", you need to scroll it with the original effort ... Flint (complete).

And one more thing, so to speak, paranoid that if xA Since Floor Black Ice - thin coating, it pretty quickly start to cover scratches. Do Winners lighters with the same surface? What it looks like over time?

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

19:40 - 5 June 2012

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The original flint usually starts "stick" when coming to an end. If so, then the solution is obvious: to replace a new one if it is not, there are doubts about the originality of the flint.

dreamwork - Expert

Ukraine

19:46 - 5 June 2012

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If a new flint, and then a little pozaedaet pass. Covering black ice cleared relatively quickly and began to lighten a little lighter.

Deniss - Member

g.Engels

20:08 - 5 June 2012

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dreamwork writes:

Covering black ice cleared relatively quickly and began to lighten a little lighter.


Interestingly, I think, particularly lighter look worse will not. Some write that she finds her "second" life ... But what if at the expense of laser engraving (not officially)? I am in no boom boom, what's the thickness of the coating, and how deep engraving itself. That is not "peel off" if she and Black ICEom?

kypexin - Administrator

20:12 - 5 June 2012

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Deniss writes:

dreamwork writes:

Covering black ice cleared relatively quickly and began to lighten a little lighter.


Interestingly, I think, particularly lighter look worse will not. Some write that she finds her "second" life ... But what if at the expense of laser engraving (not officially)? I am in no boom boom, what's the thickness of the coating, and how deep engraving itself. That is not "peel off" if she and Black ICEom?


Depth of engraving by the way can be different and it is necessary to ask those who inflicted it. Incidentally there is a slight chance that coated with it can really get down, or at least strongly erased.

Deniss - Member

g.Engels

20:30 - 5 June 2012

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Message edited 21:01 - June 5, 2012 by user


That's what I'm afraid of.

Reassure themselves that, as can be seen, metal (and by the way of what the body is made?) Bleached laser, it hardly can be done with a thin coating legkosterayuschimsya. Yes, and the touch felt roughness in engraving ...

kypexin - Administrator

20:36 - 5 June 2012

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Deniss writes:

Message edited 20:31 - June 5, 2012 user Deniss


That's what I'm afraid of.

Reassure themselves that, as can be seen, metal (and by the way of what the body is made?) Bleached laser, it hardly can be done with a thin coating legkosterayuschimsya. Yes, and the touch felt roughness in engraving ...


Brass body, her top finish.

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

20:43 - 5 June 2012

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Message edited 20:44 - June 5, 2012 user Gorynych5


kypexin writes:

Deniss writes:

Message edited 20:31 - June 5, 2012 user Deniss


That's what I'm afraid of.

Reassure themselves that, as can be seen, metal (and by the way of what the body is made?) Bleached laser, it hardly can be done with a thin coating legkosterayuschimsya. Yes, and the touch felt roughness in engraving ...


Brass body, her top finish.


It seems there is a double cover, first conventional nickel-plated (chrome), and then he Black Ice. Not?

kypexin - Administrator

20:47 - 5 June 2012

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Gorynych5 writes:

Message edited 20:44 - June 5, 2012 user Gorynych5


It seems there is a double cover, first conventional nickel-plated (chrome), and then he Black Ice. Not?


And that's what I do not know. Maybe the way!

Deniss - Member

g.Engels

20:42 - June 6, 2012

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Message edited 20:58 - June 6, 2012 user Deniss


Gorynych5 writes:

It seems there is a double cover, first conventional nickel-plated (chrome), and then he Black Ice. Not?


Correct a little, in that case a triple coated brass body: Stage 1 - nickel, then chrome (it's not the same thing), and finally, Black Ice layer (technology PVD).

Sources: here and here .

PS: I think to change the filler. Three days ago filled her Newportom the eyeballs, now flame lukewarm. Now I think that it is better: regular wool or as many recommend a tampon? Big difference? Fortunately, there is anyone skomunizdit ...

Gorynych5 - Maniac

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20:45 - June 6, 2012

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Deniss writes:

Gorynych5 writes:

It seems there is a double cover, first conventional nickel-plated (chrome), and then he Black Ice. Not?


Correct a little, in that case a triple coated brass body: Stage 1 - nickel, then chrome (it's not the same thing), and finally, Black Ice layer (technology PVD).

Sources: here and here .


Thank you, I will consider.)

Deniss - Member

g.Engels

16:44 - June 7, 2012

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Taki natolkal in lighter wadding tampon, only xs, prolong service life ... Is Purely tactile sensations, it is the same as the factory packing. When compared to conventional (pharmacy) wool, this reminds sintipon. I think maybe because of laying fiber (one to one, rarely intertwine). Purely my opinion, will see what happens in practice (pour Newport, in my city do not find the original, but there are in the nearby. Does it make sense for him to tear your ass?

chaa174 - Expert

16:57 - June 7, 2012

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Message edited 17:03 - June 7, 2012 user chaa174


you my friend made me smile.

what game is this and lighter.

if they do not hand curves and straight, for the second year, some bugs and glitches, what you want from Zippo with their logo? she's all their karma gomosyachyu absorb. and shimming, kosyachny work, a sense of incompleteness ... nothing really reminded?

zvinyayte for offtopic, but not against the truth trample.

coverage is relatively new, according to statistics, it is no normal. plus the constant change of technology is in the factory improvements. but promise strength is not particularly inferior to classical.

engraving the way normal people bought the factory. is it even worth nothing ;) but normal people ...

with cotton in Zippo not perverted, native packing in control was quite kosher. but in IMCO result was evident. wadding tampon if its stuff without fanaticism sooo still significantly adds fuel quantity absorbed. most importantly do not go overboard with the density. need to find the middle ground where the density wool only enough gasoline to keep it did not flow down, and felt this would help.

sense to bother with gasoline can not see - how much has not changed newport original ... well the original sympathetic better. color flame cleaner and temperature may increase a couple of dozen ... :) enough for half a day longer ... :) in general the same only in profile. Only zippovsky benz from what it is worth 2.5 - 3 times more expensive.

Deniss - Member

g.Engels

17:10 - June 7, 2012

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Heh heh, thanks for the answer =)

Not immediately doper that early post talking about the game ... thinking about Zippo production xD

Well, the taste and color, as the saying goes. I play enough, it's time. And it is a gift - two =)

chaa174 - Expert

17:42 - June 7, 2012

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if the gift is - by definition better not to bother.

But when I gave a replica in 1941 when I, too, saw the smallness engraving was dissatisfied (not like any writing and painting). well as the functional - Zippo and nobody can take away.

yes, even when laying cotton wick and recommend to stack correctly - the "snake", passing between the layers of wool. wick will not burn if the flame is lit for a long time.

and gasoline. remembered once was a sinner - what then poured poison 30 re for butylek (zadolbalsya look normal - was nowhere) - filling enough that not much and less time.

Deniss - Member

g.Engels

19:49 - June 7, 2012

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chaa174 writes:

yes, even when laying cotton wick and recommend to stack correctly - the "snake", passing between the layers of wool. wick will not burn if the flame is lit for a long time.


That's me know immediately so made, and then when you first open the wick in general was pinned in the corner of wool ...

chaa174 writes:

and gasoline. remembered once was a sinner - what then poured poison 30 re for butylek (zadolbalsya look normal - was nowhere) - filling enough that not much and less time.


Not, God forbid, then another, and will stink that will change the entire pack. I will continue to use Newport.

kypexin - Administrator

9:14 - 8 June 2012

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Deniss writes:

Message edited 20:58 - June 6, 2012 user Deniss


Correct a little, in that case a triple coated brass body: Stage 1 - nickel, then chrome (it's not the same thing), and finally, Black Ice layer (technology PVD).

Sources: here and here .


Oh by the way. zippo.ru long ago've stole the material from this site including images, and do not even bother to put a link :))) http://zippocollector.ru/archives/2709

Cute, right? :)

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

10:00 - June 8, 2012

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Message edited 10:01 - June 8, 2012 user Gorynych5


And this is not an isolated case. Seen articles that have completely copied from our website, other Russian and Ukrainian resursah.Paru times even entertained friends dialogue:

-Soooo, open hhhh.uuu poster, seen Silver Plate? I have SUCH.

-Just think, me too rare.

-You do not understand. It is a one to one. (Out of the box is removed and mashed Venitsiano offered for Comparison with photos)

-Huyasse. And if they sue?

-My name Don Quixote? Like no ...


something like that, yes ..

kypexin - Administrator

10:12 - June 8, 2012

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Yes, the contents of the site that spread around the internet, this just is not surprising. I'm not even worried about it, it only tells about the quality :)

But the materials I stole RUSSIAN OFFICIAL SITE ZIPPO!!!!!!!!!! (By the way there is to "all the directories zippo" - it is also more than 20 files stolen from here: http://zippocollector.ru/zippo-catalogs ). Stolen = copied and delivered to the site without reference.

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

10:14 - June 8, 2012

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kypexin writes:

Yes, the contents of the site that spread around the internet, this just is not surprising. I'm not even worried about it, it only tells about the quality :)

But the materials I stole RUSSIAN OFFICIAL SITE ZIPPO!!!!!!!!!! (By the way there is to "all the directories zippo" - it is also more than 20 files stolen from here: http://zippocollector.ru/zippo-catalogs ). Stolen = copied and delivered to the site without reference.


RUSSIAN keyword))))))))

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

12:33 - June 8, 2012

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kypexin writes:

I'm not even worried about it, it only tells about the quality :)


I absolutely agree. You Volodya and Moderator Vash_Truli lot of unique articles written in Russian. It is a pity that you do not have time to spread interesting with lots AUCTION. With great interest read-watched this column.

Deniss - Member

g.Engels

13:05 - June 8, 2012

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-Offtopic question:

I want to buy a lighter zippo armour 169, interested two questions:

1) an insert made of brass or a sputtering?

2) is it possible to polish the casing from scratches, if not oxidized metal? Is there a protective coating?


If not difficult to recommend a certified (!) Online shop that would be prepaid and delivery "Mail of Russia"

Deniss - Member

g.Engels

13:07 - June 8, 2012

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Message edited 13:49 - June 8, 2012 user Deniss


Or maybe here who sells lighters and stock have 169? Would not mind ...

Awaiting order here. Best store that found the more it is referenced by the official website and "Korolus."

And one more thing. I do not quite understand, not to cover Armorov Kotz leans? Specifically in 169 models.

Just different pictures of different, there may be doing to her that this ... whereby the lid itself is supported in this position?

evenk - Expert

Moscow region

13:41 - June 8, 2012

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Simply insert-napylenie.Korpus oxidized, even as it is oxidized.

Deniss - Member

g.Engels

13:52 - June 8, 2012

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evenk writes:

Simply insert-napylenie.Korpus oxidized, even as it is oxidized.


And oxidation is easily polished? vsmysle need to polish on the disc \ manually (well GOI there or something like that ...), or enough cloth to rub the right.

I want it such as uncoated and it is possible at the right moment, and as the new zapolirovat =)

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

13:58 - June 8, 2012

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You are probably not quite right understand what Armor. Casing thickness is 1.5 times the material is the same as that of the same in appearance model. Brass or silver model Sterling. Hinges and insert identical simple lighters.

evenk - Expert

Moscow region

13:58 - June 8, 2012

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Message edited 13:59 - June 8, 2012 user evenk


I, however, 168 Brushed Brass, a desire-brush eraser, then soft tryapochkoy.Na some time saves marketability.

kypexin - Administrator

14:15 - June 8, 2012

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Deniss writes:

If not difficult to recommend a certified (!) Online shop that would be prepaid and delivery "Mail of Russia"


http://zippocollector.ru/discount


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