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| wolf1310 - Member 21:44 - 29 August 2012 Posts 12 |
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| Purchased for the original collection of Zippo lighters with military and paramilitary theme, let it with engravings, inscriptions, etc. etc., which are somehow connected with local military conflicts around miru.Zhelatelno in Moscow, but may be purchased from other cities. Chinese pale PS please do not suggest that it had not been hurt and offended :-) |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 21:50 - 29 August 2012 1860 posts |
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| Do I understand correctly that you are interested in lighter "with history"? Oh doubtful these are stored in the same box with the orders, and you promise for leftist hit in the face)) |
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| Zvonkoff - Moderator Novorossiysk, Black Sea 22:10 - 29 August 2012 951 posts |
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| Gorin, well, you never know how it is in the inheritance left, bought at the flea market or something. Chance find here is small, but still there ;))) | Zippers - up shit! Zippers above the shit! |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 22:19 - 29 August 2012 1860 posts |
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| So I said, and "doubtful" and not "absolutely impossible", only in my memory no one on this forum has not yet offered for sale such instance ... I was only saying the odds. If there is a lighter, I'll be jumping with delight hug seller and buyer demand and shoot from different angles. We'll see ... |
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| chaa174 - Expert 6:03 - August 30, 2012 503 posts |
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| yeah ... so you sell them and ... unless spivshiesya heirs ... but they are not dumps tyrnet climb |
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| Zvonkoff - Moderator Novorossiysk, Black Sea 10:18 - 30 August 2012 951 posts |
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| FAA, the demand in the nose does not ;) | Zippers - up shit! Zippers above the shit! |
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| chaa174 - Expert 15:54 - 30 August 2012 503 posts |
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| Yes I personally would buy such a thing myself ... zapadlo was certainly at least in this perspective, the author voiced. not a thing but the story ... I xs ... for me it can be sometimes in the nose for such a demand to get it ... well, you can see who has what it foundations and education ... then one option - a gift, or a friendly exchange "at the Bash Bash" - so I understand. but for the money ... it's like with whores fuck - never understand what is needed to become like ... |
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| Berg - Member 17:24 - 30 August 2012 Posts 116 |
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| chaa174 writes: Yes I personally would buy such a thing myself ... zapadlo was certainly at least in this perspective, the author voiced. not a thing but the story ... I xs ... for me it can be sometimes in the nose for such a demand to get it ... well, you can see who has what it foundations and education ... then one option - a gift, or a friendly exchange "at the Bash Bash" - so I understand. but for the money ... it's like with whores fuck - never understand what is needed to become like ...
In-in. Even things made by hand are not usually push. And then the author wants to buy ... Shard stories or something. And what moral principles should be the seller to sell such a thing? |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 17:44 - 30 August 2012 1860 posts |
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| Guys. And why did you decide that the seller necessarily relative order of the soldier? About collectors forms ammunition and weapons from the battlefield heard? )))) It's not that, and that establish the authenticity of that lighter visited the war virtually impossible. Onizh anything from "civilian" no different. Who gave lighting a cigarette? Valiant sergeant back in Saigon, or card sharpie in no less distant Alabama? ;) |
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| Berg - Member 17:54 - 30 August 2012 Posts 116 |
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| Well, not yet decided, and led a classic example. A collectors ... Here, the FAA says - at the Bash Bash at ... if not a matter of two zavyalyalis. And the site has a collectors "military" Zipp? |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 17:56 - 30 August 2012 1860 posts |
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| Berg writes: Well, not yet decided, and led a classic example. A collectors ... Here, the FAA says - at the Bash Bash at ... if not a matter of two zavyalyalis. And the site has a collectors "military" Zipp?
I already wrote above: Not met :-) |
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| chaa174 - Expert 18:52 - 30 August 2012 503 posts |
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| Gorynych5 writes: Guys. And why did you decide that the seller necessarily relative order of the soldier? About collectors forms ammunition and weapons from the battlefield heard? )))) It's not that, and that establish the authenticity of that lighter visited the war virtually impossible. Onizh anything from "civilian" no different. Who gave lighting a cigarette? Valiant sergeant back in Saigon, or card sharpie in no less distant Alabama? ;)
say briefly - scavengers. yeah, I forgot one option - there are still captured. but there is already a kind of thing is ... =) |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 19:39 - 30 August 2012 1860 posts |
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| Disagree. There are "scavengers" poroyutsya in battlefields, rack up all that well marketed, bones scattered, and jogging will shit on the market. And there are normal search engines, "raise" fallen soldiers, trying to establish the names, find relatives bury pogibschih as human beings, but they also settle things whose identity could not be established, and change, and sell, and the museums of military glory pass. Do I need a stranger to me personally piece of glory? Unidentified Wani or Hans, or John fought in wars around the world? Definitely not. But those who want to condemn can not ... |
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| chaa174 - Expert 20:03 - 30 August 2012 503 posts |
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| and I do not judge. I despise. there is a difference, right? ;-) it know how organisms male returns no growth or force any brains, loving big knives and pistols, which in the hands can not really keep in mind ... this disorder. and not treated. |
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| chaa174 - Expert 20:05 - 30 August 2012 503 posts |
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| yes, that the author did not take offense - read carefully what is written. lighters with themed pictures if it's another topic. just really stab something and went away ... |
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| Zvonkoff - Moderator Novorossiysk, Black Sea 21:59 - 30 August 2012 951 posts |
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| What then straight season nervous reactions we started on the forum ... On the other hand very well that such topics are discussing seriously. Only a big request, let's not swearing, and transitions to the individual. Partly agree with the FAA, but not so strongly. If a person is a businessman, it is his money, and when something flows into money, many human feelings atrophy over time, it is like doctors - the most notorious cynics. All of their abuse and do not understand and are willing to hari beat on every corner, but once in the side twinge - run to him just to the doctors ... I was just, for example ... We've got a very land abounds artifacts Second World War, the war in places such were we, the fighting was going on atskie meager territories still greetings from the past can be safely even see with the naked eye - like walking through the mountains and saw the whole scattering cartridges, for example, from a chipped land fell ... What can we say about those who want to purposefully to find something with which everything else purpose ... so that there is someone to look and in a positive and, unfortunately, negative no less, and even more ... But here the leopard change his spots ... I'm here, I can not transcend itself and delve into other people's bones, the more so cheto seek to sell. But why do we immediately moved into the mainstream topic it ts black collectors? I am confident that these benefits get combat lighters extremely Doha and without "taking off with corpses," and so n .... | Zippers - up shit! Zippers above the shit! |
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| Zvonkoff - Moderator Novorossiysk, Black Sea 22:05 - 30 August 2012 951 posts |
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| And by the way, which is where the missing. Not interested in the topic, chtoli? ... | Zippers - up shit! Zippers above the shit! |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 22:11 - 30 August 2012 1860 posts |
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| Pash was not transferred and continue to develop the theme. Such as the lighter can emerge? Or Vietnam veteran brought her from the war, carefully preserved, and after the death of children or grandchildren soldier selling his memory, such Chah called condom or her skrysil someone from the battlefield, these also agreed to consider a condom, or the latest proposed version, it is found in the land many years after the events. And in the FAQ poditozhu like Volodya clearly indicated: - Lighter, which your relative was a gift from the American soldier during World War II, the Vietnam War, the war in Iraq or any other war - actually modern and has no relation to the war. 100%.
- Zippo lighter engraved with the Vietnam War, which you bought at the auction, in fact, a modern forgery. 100%.
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| Zvonkoff - Moderator Novorossiysk, Black Sea 22:32 - 30 August 2012 951 posts |
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| About the FAQ by Vietnamese or any other martial Zippy, I disagree. Because he does not pass the regular elementary logic - and a relative could easily get a gift on the war and the auction can be purchased with original engravings simply because such lighters just simply there, and another thing - how often they come across and how well do ... But counterfeiting it is quite another question. ;))) | Zippers - up shit! Zippers above the shit! |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 22:45 - 30 August 2012 1860 posts |
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| Yes, but the same logic, if the lighter nakoryabano something, she means the owner of the road, take away dick, but if you just order the same year of publication, how to check whether it was-in the war? And if simple, but later nakaryabanoy garbage type Saigon DMB-1969? Fakes sea, real unity. Futile search for a ... |
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| shturman1998 - Maniac 7:59 - August 31, 2012 791 posts |
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| Slava - Expert 7:59 - August 31, 2012 225 posts |
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| Message Edit 8:02 - August 31, 2012 user Slava
This is probably a souvenir issued to soldiers? |
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| shturman1998 - Maniac 8:44 - August 31, 2012 791 posts |
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| yes it is possible, but there are still a lot of similar things with names of parts and connections and released for different countries and different conflicts, simply quite difficult to find and they are rare |
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