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Material inserts Zippo, its features and history

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yours_truly - Moderator

3:24 - 19 February 2010

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Message edited 15:29 - February 19, 2010 user yours_truly


Just specify that articles about Zippo inserts can be found on foreign websites, but as is the largest Russian-speaking ZippoCollector.ru portal about Zippo, I would like to insert an article on Zippo and was in Russian :)

Once at one of the branches slipped offline information insert "queen", in honor of which, for the most part, created this forum and website accordingly! Namely became a question of what metal manufactured insert.Zdes not without controversy, but now , with your permission, colleagues, you can arrange this topic punktam.I so:

- End of 1932 - 1941 inserts are made of chrome-plated brass, as, in principle, and the case:

- 1941 - 1945 gg. During the Second World War was made of lighter body stali.Sootvetstvenno of steel produced and inserts themselves!

- 1946. - The beginning of 1951 inserts made of nickel appear to be very similar to steel, sometimes not even tell the difference, another thing feeling in the hand, but check out the features I did not have:

- Mid '51 - end of '53 During the Korean War (between North and South), in which the U.S. took part on the side of South Korea, Zippo again switched to the production of housings made of steel, in view of the fact that other metals required for military needs! Naturally, this has touched and inserts, which in those years also began to produce steel:

- 1954 - Today

So! And here begins the most intriguing! Avoid any misleading applicable hypothesis of relativity!

Since 1954, the start made ​​inserts, chromed brass, according to one site, but according to another website from stali.Soglasno accompanying video in Russian about making Zippo, inserts made ​​of steel sheets, so this view is acceptable, but with a note regarding, NOT FINAL! Unfortunately, I am not strong metal, so that he can not say definitively! According to most user reviews current Zippo inserts made of steel

If anything, I'm not guilty! :)

Judge for yourself, photo insert of 2002 (normal):

Photo insert of 2002 from the replica in 1941!

Interesting facts:

In 1946-47. Zippo inserts made of an alloy of nickel and silver:

During these years, there is another change, insert the old to the new changes!

In the old style inserts in 1946-1947. 14 holes in the windscreen, the new 1947 - 16!

And as in the '47 model there are two varieties of the insert is the first type and the second type.

They differ in width Zippo inscriptions on the front side of the insert:

Further, the inserts were made in 1942 with the "wrong" wrap steel sheets, roughly counterclockwise:

Between 1983 and 1984 there was a change at the ends of brass tubes for flint:

Since its inception, the end of 1932 to 1937 within the insert was here such pistonchik:

Since 1937. prior to 1958. inside the windshield end of the cam (hereinafter - the cam plate or if translated literally from English - spring cam!) was "hooked":

Since mid-1958. by 1969. inclusive cam inside the windshield became direct:

From 1970. Today on cam inside the windshield became wide:

In the period since 1961. the beginning of 1963. rivet wheel became whole and not prozrachnoy.Segodnya on modern models, not vintage, transparent rivet can be found on the insert Replicas Replicas 1941 and 1935:

Since the beginning of manufacturing by 1947. at the bottom of the insert was like this litter of cotton-type cigarette filter:

Since 1948. to 1992. at the bottom of the insert is used by all of us felt pad favorite:

1959. - 1968 with white also used pink napkin:

1968. - 1972 - used for one-piece packing inserts Solid Fuel Cell:

In 1991, the felt pad appears LIFT TO FILL, but disappears in the hole tsentre.Eto continues until 2001 g.Kstati, for many of its purpose and appearance remains a mystery, but everyone is free to reinterpret its origin and destination:

2001 - today reappears central hole in the felt pads are preserved inscriptions and today it exists in the form:

In 1989, slightly changing the cam plate inside the windscreen, its corners are cut and slightly blunted:

1946 - one of the major events :)

Notches on the wheel change from horizontal to intersect:

1970 - live cam inside the windshield, which was from the middle of 1958 to 1970, rashiryaetsya toward the Wheel (1970 - 1989), in 1989, it will replace the cam with blunt angles:

In the insert Zippo 1932/33 years. the cam was in the form of a hook:

In 1933, the cam has changed a bit, took a more modern look, but its front part was vzakruglennoy and rear - on the contrary, the flat:

From 1947 to August 2003 cam existed in this form, and now both sides were smooth and flat:

In August 2003, I was a little end of the cam, with the bottom two sides appear a bit small incisions:

Right cam until August 2003., Left, respectively - since August 2003.

Further, in February 2000, the inscription on the insert changes from vertical to horizontal orientation:

In 1999 appears to Zippo Pipe Zippo tubes and inserts respectively architecture also undergoes izmeneniya.Eto concerns mainly the windscreen! Now it through, and the top plate is covered with a small hole:

In 1976, on the back side of the insert appears that existed in this form until 1981 and states of the precautions when using lighters, keep away from children, etc.:

In 1982, the inscriptions were swapped in this form are located on the insert and to this day:

Well, that's basically it, dear colleagues, visitors of the site and amateurs Zippo I understand that there may be flaws somewhere, somewhere not understand everything but the bare essentials, like disassembled Colleagues, experts do not judge, please strictly and harshly, I admit that there could be errors, I hope you did not have a very boring! :)

Thank you all for your attention, good luck! :)


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Yours sincerely,

Yours_Truly


Merqury - Member

Samara, Russia

11:13 - 19 February 2010

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And again, great job, keep it up, yours_truly!

I will allow myself a little supplement and correct your material, to the extent of their own knowledge of the subject.

yours_truly writes:

Since 1954, the start made inserts, chromed brass, according to one site, but according to another website from stali.Soglasno accompanying video in Russian about making Zippo, inserts made of steel sheets, so this view is acceptable, but with a note regarding, NOT FINAL! Unfortunately, I am not strong metal, so he finally can not say!

This topic interested me too. I can not say for all years and models, but on my 2006, clearly steel insert, because attracted by a magnet, unlike the housing. Judging by attrition, formed on the sides of the insert swells in contact with the body - shiny outer surface is a plating likely chrome. The question remains open with brass models, because they also insert the yellow metal

Since its inception, the end of 1932 to 1937 within the insert was here such pistonchik:

In this "pit" located while coil spring, propping cam.

Since 1937. prior to 1958. inside the windshield end of the cam was "hooked":

Since mid-1958. by 1969. inclusive cam inside the windshield became direct:

From 1970. Today on cam inside the windshield became wide:

1970 - live cam inside the windshield, which was from the middle of 1958 to 1970, rashiryaetsya toward the Wheel (1970 - 1989), in 1989, it will replace the cam with blunt angles:

In these passages we are, of course, talking about the shape of the leaf spring cam.


Sincerely yours, Merqury ...

faust - Maniac

Moscow

17:29 - 19 February 2010

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elegant, 5 points!

yours_truly - Moderator

18:50 - 19 February 2010

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Thank you, Cyril!

yours_truly - Moderator

21:20 - 19 February 2010

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Message edited 21:21 - February 19, 2010 user yours_truly


What inserts made of steel I doubt no longer vyzyzvayut.Tolko that looked two rollers about making Zippo, in both films said that the inserts are made of steel! So in this saga, I think you can put a full stop!

Next! Proceed to cover! Oddly, both views, namely oniks1 and Merqury, valid only under the condition of combining more than one process to another!

First on the second video says that nickel is first, and then on top of it chrome! In order to verify the feasibility of such a process, decided about these two technologies to read! And please quote quote:
"Nickel plating on the nickel plating surface of the product (a thick, generally from 2.1 up to 40-50 microns). NA exposed mainly steel products and alloys based on Cu, Zn and Al; least - products Mg, Ti, W, Mo and their alloys; developed methods for applying nickel non-metallic surface - ceramics, plastics, bakelite, porcelain, glass and N. et al is used to protect products against corrosion (in atmospheric conditions, in solutions of alkalis, salts and weak organic acids), improve the wear resistance of parts, as well as protective and decorative purposes.

Nickel is used, for example, to cover the details of the chemical equipment, automobiles, bicycles, medical tools, appliances, household items, measuring tool, cliche stereotypes, as well as parts that operate at light loads under dry friction, etc. Nickel coating over time lose some of its original luster. So often cover a layer of nickel-resistant layer of chromium.

Benefits of chromium are well known. This metal has a tendency to be covered by a passive, transparent dense film, which increases corrosion resistance and warning darkening brilliant decorative coatings. Chrome itself does not create a good corrosion protection for steel, hence the need to use intermediate layers, such as nickel or nickel - copper. "

yours_truly - Moderator

21:40 - 19 February 2010

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Message edited 22:04 - February 19, 2010 user yours_truly


Merqury writes:

The question remains open with brass models, because they also insert the yellow metal


Generally, I suggest not to bother too much on this subject, although, of course, all this is interesting! In order for any special chemistry or physics obsmeyat I did not, I should say that I'm on the topic dalek.No in fact, what's the difference, I think so , no value will not add lighter insert, we learn from what he is made of metal! Clearly, that is not made of gold and platinum, if we're talking about the insert yellow!

Merqury, I was thinking at the expense of your question about the Brass Zippo models, which insert zheltyy.Tak, again simply put forward his hypothesis - insert taken the same steel and this is done is done zheltym.Kak again will not say exactly, but there are for example, a process such as latuirovanie, the Internet can about him pochitat.Beretsya steel product and is covered by a layer of brass ... But I could be wrong!

Relying again on the movie in English, heard that kind of like this:

"The inside case is made of steel, but as this lighter is a gold lighter, the inside case goes to a gold bathroom to look like the whole lighter ..."

When she said this, just insert showed yellow! Look video, if not watched! Seems you with English everything is normal ..


yours_truly - Moderator

21:50 - 19 February 2010

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oniks1 writes:

Chrome - metal is very expensive to use it on the inner detail, and it's pretty steady on his fortress ... Most likely that is still used nickel plating ...


Even in the video said in Russian, then first nickel chrome

http://zippocollector.ru/archives/592

so in essence you with merqury both right!

Merqury - Member

Samara, Russia

10:36 - 24 February 2010

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All right, yours_truly, as far as I know, chrome never applied directly to the main surface. Just some time ago caught the eye of the loop peredachka American Chopper, or something ... There are just in a plating bath of a custom motorcycle parts "bathed". Details likely steel. So, at first covered with a layer of copper, then nickel, and only then the last - chrome. I tap on the box Grohe (renovated house with his wife do) also just shemka extolling their surface resistance, cut - first brass (base material), followed by a relatively thick layer of nickel, and then a thin film of chromium.

In the case of the insert, it is possible simply nickel is used, there are already professionals must ask. :-)

About yellow - yes, indeed, it is very likely some electroplating, in my house watch "Victory" old roll, they have a yellow body, but obviously the steel, the passport says "coated housing - anodizing."


Sincerely yours, Merqury ...

yours_truly - Moderator

22:19 - 24 February 2010

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Message edited 22:24 - February 24, 2010 user yours_truly


basically yes, insert goes into "bare" steel kind only if it is not a yellow insert, where they cover something special vannah.no say exactly say no but specialists as well, and we are not experts, it also make sense to guess net.Sovremenny inserts made of steel and everything on it!. well then so can speculate endlessly!

at the expense of the anodizing! anodizing, as I understand it, is the process of planting on the surface of metal oxide film, which protects the metal from korrozii.pri it is possible to obtain different colors! most sites, this process is called color anodizing. again only to insert it all the direct has nothing to do, as to say exactly, no one can, at least, of the participants in the forum, otherwise I think these divinations that for coating inserts Zippo has long would not be ...

suggest just close this topic, because the most basic we found, much to dig into the details, it's just a plant worker in Bradford can say what and how! start now otherwise the same as the replica with a lid 41, and why and how?

kypexin - Administrator

22:43 - 24 February 2010

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Yes! Insert in your pants! :))))

faust - Maniac

Moscow

23:53 - 24 February 2010

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kypexin writes:

Yes! Insert in your pants! :))))


anodized)))

Merqury - Member

Samara, Russia

10:05 - 25 February 2010

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oniks1 writes:

Anodizing - a way of metal, rather than the composition of the coating. Descriptions and information on the Internet abound. And speaking of the insert, it is likely he did nothing covered - just steel. And in a film about Zippo, which refers to the nickel plating, chrome plating and then, we are talking about the case.


Well, I say - some plating, about the way, rather than material. There is already a need to conduct analyzes. :-)

And about the "not covered" - it's possible, just in my particular instance it was too suspicious in view of the insert scuffs on bumps where it inside an enclosure shorkatsya - much like that caused some outer layer erased, not just polishing zatsarapalas. I would sfotkal but no fotika work, but at home too lazy ... :-)

As another factor in favor of this hypothesis - if the steel inserts - "rzhaveyka", it needs some protective coating against corrosion.

kypexin - Administrator

10:13 - 25 February 2010

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Coverage of course there is, but I do not know what. But I know how inserts can rust! I have an old Zippo 1950s, in which an insert can not be removed in principle - rusty and "soured". And even if you do not bring to this state, it is still often possible to see the rust in the "pipe".

Merqury - Member

Samara, Russia

10:54 - 25 February 2010

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kypexin writes:

Coverage of course there is, but I do not know what. But I know how inserts can rust! I have an old Zippo 1950s, in which an insert can not be removed in principle - rusty and "soured". And even if you do not bring to this state, it is still often possible to see the rust in the "pipe".


Duc zarzhavit anything can skillfully something. Bad business simple. :-)

slay - Expert

12:47 - 25 February 2010

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agree, depends on how to use =) You can carefully, because to this day live in perfect condition Zippo mid-20th century, but you can not - then this week and can irreversibly damage =)

yours_truly - Moderator

16:01 - 25 February 2010

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Инсерт делается из обычной стали, это не нержавейка, нержваеющая сталь, как правило, не магнитится!

Merqury - Member

Самара, РФ

16:23 - Февраль 25, 2010

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yours_truly пишет:

Инсерт делается из обычной стали, это не нержавейка, нержваеющая сталь, как правило, не магнитится!


Вот и я какбе намекаю на это.

slay - Expert

17:00 - Февраль 25, 2010

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а жаль=)

Merqury - Member

Самара, РФ

17:26 - Февраль 25, 2010

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“Нержа” хуже в плане механических свойств, сложнее в обработке и дороже. Так что всё правильно. :-)

yours_truly - Moderator

17:33 - Февраль 25, 2010

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Для столь массового производства она, конечно, дороговата…

pashmyan - Гость

19:14 - Апрель 18, 2011

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А не подскажете, в серебрянных и золотых Zippo тоже стальные инсерты?

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

21:10 - Апрель 18, 2011

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Ну да стальные, серебро и золото слишком мягкие металлы, потому инсерты из них как из.. известной субстанции пуля.

ultrain - Expert

13:23 - Июнь 5, 2012

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хорошая информация, есть моменты, которые дополнили мои знания! Thank you.


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