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| kypexin - Administrator 14:11 - 13 February 2010 Posts 1670 |
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| Yes you ofigeli colleagues :))) no one no promises that the cap in 1941 replica will recline to 180 degrees! I certainly understand, "neakkuratnenko, doctor," but I think it's from the category, for example, require the purchase to the date of the case and the insert coincided :) There are certain manufacturing tolerances, which are enforced. I am sure that even if we take completely the same common model, the tilt angle cover they too can be different! | |
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| yours_truly - Moderator 14:50 - 13 February 2010 Posts 1214 |
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| kypexin writes: No one no promises that cover from 1941 replica will recline to 180 degrees!
I've also become interested in, and somewhere officially says that she has to cover a 180-degree recline? :) Or is it purely by chance found it! |
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| Merqury - Member Samara, Russia 20:53 - 13 February 2010 Posts 141 |
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| My 5 cents in total cash. I have a regular "straight chrome" E 06, to operate 3 to Lihue year. Alas, I do not remember how she acted again, but Wait opening angle is very close to 180 - a loop backlash, of course, is palpable. In any case, the offer is much broader than the 1941 I have oniks1. If you arrive on the day of birth 1941, I - we'll see how it will be. to botas: I probably still carries - Zippovsky native benzo until the left did not come across like never, smell it, of course, slightly, but still within the normal range, and the "smell" does not change. :-) |
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| yours_truly - Moderator 16:23 - 14 February 2010 Posts 1214 |
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| Oh, Lord, Yes, what is the downside? :) Sorry if I suddenly usual model, not a replica would open 41 to 180 degrees, and most do not have that now all marriage in the factory turned out! Here I do not think the factory in Bradford, when tested replica 41, all workers are beginning to open this model and look-opened at 180 degrees or not: If no type is sent to the marriage or to the CIS countries and Russia, and there type in This condition can be sent! is nonsense! |
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| yours_truly - Moderator 21:06 - 14 February 2010 Posts 1214 |
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| Yes I suggest to close this subject, this is not the end of the world, and the downside of this is just so not name, for that matter! Less simply have to bother on such things! Works, well, it's the most important thing! |
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| botas - Expert 2:01 - February 15, 2010 530 posts |
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| Message Edit 2:17 - February 15, 2010 user botas
No, colleagues, another question: why Replica-41 then opens 180 degrees, if it is not officially nowhere spelled out? Maybe she should open a new normal? |
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| yours_truly - Moderator 7:40 - February 15, 2010 Posts 1214 |
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| I thought that this is due to the flatter side faces, or if translated literally schematic differences thumbnails 41 replica of the 2003 model - the side faces of a square / straight than zakruglennye.vidimo due to this kind of effect is achieved, but it seems that nowhere Is it not written that the replica has since opened 41! but rather an accidental discovery, but not mandatory design feature! yes ... so can open but cry about it and ofishirovat, as I understand, Zippo did not! |
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| Merqury - Member Samara, Russia 13:40 - 16 February 2010 Posts 141 |
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| botas, stop trolling Zippo community. :-) The public negodue. 1941 replica owes nothing to anyone, I think, it's just that because of the design features of, say, a "predisposition" to open all 180 should be greater than that of standard Zippo. Sobsno the same condition should work for all "ploskobokih" replicas - and 1935 and 1937 and 1932-33 ... And so it is running in real, or not - this is a machine that brews loops are spotted. :-) |
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| kypexin - Administrator 13:50 - 16 February 2010 Posts 1670 |
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| You are not here to quarrel, I finally give official zippovskuyu picture that accompanied the first issue of 1941 x cues, in particular, published in the catalog and it seems even invested in a box with a cigarette lighter. It is clearly marked all the features of this model: 
As you can see, the opening of the cover 180 degrees is not declared :) PS Merqury, replica 1937 have rounded edges, as well as conventional models. And on cue 1932-33, despite the absolutely flat sides, top and bottom of the tabs on the side of glued two nakladochki that visually mimic the outer loop (although the loop is there a common, internal). They also do not allow to open the lid to 180 degrees. | |
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| Merqury - Member Samara, Russia 14:01 - 16 February 2010 Posts 141 |
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| kypexin writes: PS Merqury, replica 1937 have rounded edges, as well as conventional models. And on cue 1932-33, despite the absolutely flat sides, top and bottom of the tabs on the side of glued two nakladochki that visually mimic the outer loop (although the loop is there a common, internal). They also do not allow to open the lid to 180 degrees.
Mdya concerning the rounded sides in 1937 - so pictures looked attentively. In principle, as such, is a replica of it in 1937 - both of my ballerina. :-) For the most part, just lighter "based on" sobsno, vintage, as it was called ... About falshpetlyu for 1932-33 have read here that it interferes with the full opening is not thought, I confess. PS By the way, in 1937, as I understand it, insert the most common. Since 1941, the second - is understandable. And in 1935 the first insert what? |
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| kypexin - Administrator 14:03 - 16 February 2010 Posts 1670 |
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| At the 1935th most common regular insert. | |
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| Merqury - Member Samara, Russia 14:20 - 16 February 2010 Posts 141 |
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| Hmm, not quite, forced to fix the pics ... Wait a fiddle:   She, it turns out, insert from the 1941-th, with flat ends and a rivet through the wheel, the current holes 16 and not 14. Such cases ... |
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| kypexin - Administrator 14:25 - 16 February 2010 Posts 1670 |
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| Eeee. What are "flat ends"? :) A rivet-through, yes, I did not notice! | |
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| Merqury - Member Samara, Russia 14:55 - 16 February 2010 Posts 141 |
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| Message edited 14:57 - February 16, 2010 user Merqury
In the insert (rezevuarnoy part of it), let's say, 4 sides, edges, whatever their. :-) Two wide, which made the inscription, and two narrow that I called ends. At regular Zippo they convex-curved, like the ends of the housing, which is inserted into an insert. At replica, 1941, and, as it turned out, a replica 1935 st too, ends the insert is flat, with right angles, as in the cases related. That's something like ... |
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| kypexin - Administrator 14:57 - 16 February 2010 Posts 1670 |
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| Merqury writes: In the insert (rezevuarnoy part of it), let's say, 4 sides, edges, whatever their. :-) Two wide, which sdelanynadpisi and two narrow that I called ends. At regular Zippo they convex-curved, like the ends of the housing, which is inserted into an insert. At replica, 1941, and, as it turned out, a replica 1935 st too, ends the insert is flat, with right angles, as in the cases related. That's something like ...
Come on! I'm not even aware of such differences :) | |
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| Merqury - Member Samara, Russia 15:48 - 16 February 2010 Posts 141 |
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| Here sobsno to make it clear:    Accordingly, the conventional and replica Zippo, 1941 and 1935, I-I. Place of interest through my hands curves marked with an arrow. :-) Photos honestly steal from zippo.su. I understand that because of these differences shape inserts replicas, it is likely not interchangeable with regular. |
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| kypexin - Administrator 15:51 - 16 February 2010 Posts 1670 |
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| OMG. Well, you goggle-eyed. I would never have occurred :))) | |
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| Merqury - Member Samara, Russia 16:39 - 16 February 2010 Posts 141 |
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| Message edited 16:46 - February 16, 2010 user Merqury
In fact, I have already eyed "indirectly". :-) Just found successful pictures. And so, about the flat faces of the insert said in the official description of the differences between 1941 replica, where there specifically about the differences between the insert it is. The inside unit closely replicates the design of the original 1941 model inside unit. Like the outside, the sides of the inside unit are flatter, with squared edges where they meet the front and back surfaces. The inside unit has fewer holes in the chimney, and is also fitted with a hollow rivet that holds the striking wheel in place. |
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| yours_truly - Moderator 19:09 - 16 February 2010 Posts 1214 |
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| Message edited 19:09 - February 16, 2010 user yours_truly
Merqury writes:
About falshpetlyu for 1932-33 have read here that it interferes with the full opening is not thought, I confess.
I, frankly, did not know about it, but when carefully inspect becomes clearer ..  |
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| yours_truly - Moderator 20:03 - 16 February 2010 Posts 1214 |
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| Merqury writes:
In principle, as such, is a replica of it in 1937 - both of my ballerina. :-) For the most part, just lighter "based on" sobsno, vintage, as it was called ...
This is an amateur! :) On the palate, the color ... :) Yes, I agree, the detail of the original is not quite complete, judging by photographs of the original Zippo fotografiyam.Na '37 shows that flanks her flat, square itself is lighter, too (although there are models in '37 with rounded corners), but in any case, insert it the same root, as at 35 Zippo replica, for example, such as through holes around the wheel)! Nevertheless, from the modern Zippo is still different, the main function of their performs! It is a square, though not so much, but at least it can be seen on the top line of the cover, it is straight, not convex up! Well and, of course, if it is a replica 37 with oblique lines in the corners, this is a mark of distinction from the modern Zippo! And then, how I fixed once Vladimir, replication is not an exact copy, but simply a model with a similar shape! Hence, it is not necessary to require the repetition of all the details of it, without exception, from the number of holes in the windshield and ending with the number of loops for example, In this case, let's start another fault with the fact that for 37 replica wheel made specifically with horizontal incisions Just noticed the trend to the fact that the requirements for copies tighten, allowed almost no difference only in the date of production! Well I am sorry for it, and a replica! Simply buy the original and the replica and settle differences in the one and the other! |
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| Merqury - Member Samara, Russia 9:43 - February 17, 2010 Posts 141 |
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| Hush, hush, yours_truly. :-) I'm not nit-picking for the sake of simply stating a fact. In the end, 1937-I - the first mass, so to speak, a replica. (1932-33 thing much of the limited edition, and I must say, in daily use is a rather dubious pleasure of pure water collector's item). It's like a trial balloon, there seems to not bother too detailed similarities - most importantly, that the "mood" to catch. When later developed the 1941 th and 1935 th - including, perhaps, customer reviews, we decided to give them a more "generic features", for which a special thank you to them. :-) By the way, I would like to see in the line of 1941 x option too with oblique lines in the corners, as in 1937, first, the pictures of vintage Zipp there is such a variety. Would look interesting, IMHO. Sincerely yours, Merqury ... |
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| yours_truly - Moderator 19:47 - 24 February 2010 Posts 1214 |
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| Message edited 19:48 - February 24, 2010 user yours_truly
Merqury writes: I understand that because of these differences shape inserts replicas, it is likely not interchangeable with regular.
Theoretically true! well, if you take the cue, 1932, which also has a flat face on the body, squarer nowhere, but insert more like a regular:  And normally sits like :) But maybe I'm wrong ... |
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| Merqury - Member Samara, Russia 9:49 - February 25, 2010 Posts 141 |
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| Well, 1932 at kustarschina still the same ... :-) There's not a bother, slyapali quickly "square" body, tailored to the standard insert, the loop does not even bother to make authentic. But in 1935 and 1941 may be, for example, due to the short sides of angular body is a little on the wide side of the ordinary - then ordinary insert can not enter into it, or vice versa, if the body in the width of the replicas are the same - then, in theory, insert them in the ordinary body will not enter. But this, of course, it is necessary to check the "on location". If, however, I imagine, "Wild Child" 1941 - give a report. :-) |
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| kypexin - Administrator 10:10 - 25 February 2010 Posts 1670 |
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| Insert in a replica 1932 the most common. However, in the housing lower part there is something such as "jaggies", which does not allow inserts to fall all the way (as the height of the housing bottom is more than the standard). A general problem, if you can call it that, here is this. Any non-standard parts that are different from mass-produced, the process will raise the price of production, even if only slightly in the large-scale production. That is why replica 1937 is slightly less than the other replicas - there is a regular serial insert, and other cues he's a little different. Replica of 1932 generally always accompanied curiosities, from the known error with the year and ending with the fact that it is in fact only has a collection value (although quite high), because practical use of it - is the death of his pockets :) | |
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| Merqury - Member Samara, Russia 10:48 - 25 February 2010 Posts 141 |
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| kypexin writes: A general problem, if you can call it that, here is this. Any non-standard parts that are different from mass-produced, the process will raise the price of production, even if only slightly in the large-scale production. That is why replica 1937 is slightly less than the other replicas - there is a regular serial insert, and other cues he's a little different. Replica of 1932 generally always accompanied curiosities, from the known error with the year and ending with the fact that it is in fact only has a collection value (although quite high), because practical use of it - is the death of his pockets :)
This all is clear. Just so for 1932 would be ruined, everything is she originally intended as a collector's limited edition. :-) |
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| kypexin - Administrator 10:55 - 25 February 2010 Posts 1670 |
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| So it has turned out very well and very collectible limited edition :) No matter what :) | |
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| Merqury - Member Samara, Russia 11:10 - 25 February 2010 Posts 141 |
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| kypexin writes: So it has turned out very well and very collectible limited edition :) No matter what :)
Fact. :-) Rarity - it is a rarity, its characteristics as the actual thing here is go by the wayside. We Stamp out, usually the most expensive - the brand with rare misspellings and defects at all. :-) |
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| kypexin - Administrator 11:46 - 25 February 2010 Posts 1670 |
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| At the same coin garbage, I once took a great interest :) Errors stamps and stuff are cool and expensive :) About half a year ago by the way I came across Zippo 1955 double stamped on the ass (and the second one was stamped upside down relative to the first one) - but for $ 500 + sold on Ebay! | |
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| yours_truly - Moderator 16:04 - 25 February 2010 Posts 1214 |
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| Merqury writes: But this, of course, it is necessary to check the "on location". If, however, I imagine, "Wild Child" 1941 - give a report. :-)
but what to argue! surely many members of the forum is in a collection and a replica model of the usual 41, and Zippo! you can just do an experiment and try to insert a cue insert a normal pattern, then it will be clear! :) |
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| evenk - Expert Moscow region 19:51 - 25 February 2010 391 posts |
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but what to argue! surely many members of the forum is in a collection and a replica model of the usual 41, and Zippo! you can just do an experiment and try to insert a cue insert a normal pattern, then it will be clear! :)
That's right, inserts replicas of 1935 and 1941 in my body are not logged Armor (hammer hammer did not try), but from 1937 a very good got. |
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