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Alexander - Guest

13:32 - June 2, 2011

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Den: Well, it is also not cheap, and "Japanese" made a very high quality (judging by her). only do not understand how it could jewelers with silver confused as to a Japanese native housing zippovsky inscription sterling simply must be.

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

14:58 - June 2, 2011

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Jewelers that they rarely confused here somewhere and have gold weighing 80 grams, that is, "jeweler" it together with the insert, with cotton wick and gasoline all the weight of pure gold counted. All such "weighting" they are entirely on the conscience of the author ;)

Alexander - Guest

18:50 - June 2, 2011

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and if the place of wool cram lead weight in gold will increase in times .. I would adresok this "jeweler."

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

20:10 - June 2, 2011

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Yes mulberries search Poshukayte theme was quite recently, that this jeweler and sell ;) do not forget to nail Viyetnam 1969 Jzhohn Rembo scribble it on board at least $ 2000 ;)

Hartman - Guest

20:55 - June 2, 2011

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Gorynych5 writes:

Jewelers that they rarely confused ...


YES, jeweler, as a sapper - can not afford to mess with so powerfully over blunt test for silver ... :) Especially since that silver from German silver and nickel silver things.

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

21:04 - June 2, 2011

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Hartman, Duc I wrote that such statements "on the conscience of the seller" as "selling TT, not a crime, not China, legal purity", "Sell Boar W140 600 not Interpol, full beef, on board hole 7.62 12p - it's Dad truck hit 3 times in belogoryachke tooth give no crime, inexpensive, quickly! "))))

Alexander - Guest

21:19 - June 2, 2011

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to yet this "jeweler" wanted to sell, not buy ... how much TT? ))

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

21:26 - June 2, 2011

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I think cheap, 5-7 years)) I do not vkurse himself second-hand TT prostrelyanny 140ymi and gold Zippo not sell ;)

Hartman - Guest

22:14 - June 2, 2011

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Gorynych5 writes:

I think cheap, 5-7 years)) I do not vkurse himself second-hand TT prostrelyanny 140ymi and gold Zippo not sell ;)


It depends on how many of the dead wound on the trunk ... :) Chinese TT, by the way, Soviet zarulivaem quality. Those that were considered by the Chinese in Russia - Pakistani homemade knocked out of the rails and machined chisel file. :)

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

22:23 - June 2, 2011

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Sorry, lured Hungarian)))

Hartman - Guest

23:10 - June 2, 2011

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Gorynych5 writes:

Sorry, lured Hungarian)))


Yes Mr. vseravno but to love, so that - no apology is required. :)

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

23:21 - June 2, 2011

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Hartman writes:

Gorynych5 writes:

Sorry, lured Hungarian)))


Yes Mr. vseravno but to love, so that - no apology is required. :)


And now I would like to hear the opinion of a professional, and what is the Soviet shit? Well, about the fact that if you do not remove the preservative grease, from which weapons will jam in the cold and if you drop a chip on edge and the striker not worth mentioning, so what's the Chinese trunk of "plasticine" sovetskogo become better? ;)

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

23:53 - June 2, 2011

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By the way, I'm afraid to be mistaken, but the Hungarians and Chinese produced under license and had a minor design differences (figure on the handle), and referred to "pirated" Pakistanis one in a repeated exactly shovels TT. Isnt it? ;)

Hartman - Guest

14:19 - June 3, 2011

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Gorynych5 writes:

Hartman writes:

Gorynych5 writes:

Sorry, lured Hungarian)))


Yes Mr. vseravno but to love, so that - no apology is required. :)


And now I would like to hear the opinion of a professional, and what is the Soviet shit? Well, about the fact that if you do not remove the preservative grease, from which weapons will jam in the cold and if you drop a chip on edge and the striker not worth mentioning, so what's the Chinese trunk of "plasticine" sovetskogo become better? ;)


This may lead to the epic style srach Hansa-py. I warned, if Cho. :)

The fact that I do not like the TT, in principle, as a thing. By weight reasons. For example, because it is on the TT I learned all kinds of delays - from the chimney through the double feed to break gilzy.A perhaps because it is a miracle of thought pulls out of my hand very tangible pieces of skins. Probably because uebischnaya handle shape and I never managed to hold this gun so that its control. I have big hands, yes.

And I know two people who survived after being hit in the head of TT.

And so on.

Just do not like.

About "Plasticine Chinese iron" - it is an urban legend. Chinese make weapons out of materials, some better than what was available to manufacturers in the Soviet period of the war. Heavily on equipment molodzhe and better than what was available (and to this day is) then in the USSR.

In all the laboratory tests viscosity, hardness, etc. Processing - Excellent. At least on the fact that they did export what they have there with domestic consumption - x / z.

In any case - I do not like TT Lieb its embodiment. So - vseravno. :)

Hartman - Guest

14:45 - June 3, 2011

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Gorynych5 writes:

By the way, I'm afraid to be mistaken, but the Hungarians and Chinese produced under license and had a minor design differences (figure on the handle), and referred to "pirated" Pakistanis one in a repeated exactly shovels TT. Isnt it? ;)


(Laughing) The license is on what can be patented. :)

AFAIK they just handed documents and, sometimes, equipment for proivodstva. Design, as it was quite the same, if not to take Tokedzhipt under Hungarian 9Para. Furthest in trying to make something decent TT advanced Yuga - there and guard the gate and under 9Para and 7.65 and compact versions were. And the Hungarians did Walther PP and a Makarov cartridge and Browning in 1935 in his native caliber and its version with a trigger from Smith & Wesson (even an option under the .45 ACP is), etc.

Pakistan in the province of Darra make their crafts in general is not steaming - as "WMD," and so many styles. And there it is fashionable to denounce their crafts style TT characters exactly a la China (apparently prototypes were still Chinese), therefore these homemade TT in Russia are considered "Chinese". Once happened from this shoot (at the shooting range, do not think that bad ...) - the first hundred trunk became really smooth ...

Simplicity this hack - 20 bucks on conditions EXW (ie directly in a stall at the Haji who just machined is a file that is thrown by the British before the war - and machined from a piece of rails spizhzhenoy Indians) :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ..... T_d9-52D04


Zippo they, like, do not forge. Yet.


Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

15:28 - June 3, 2011

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For creating sracha not worry, because I understand with Firearms slightly worse than in mountain biking, and I do not understand them at all ;) Because opinions about professional I asked without quotes and attempts to knock off a quick piece. As for the broken hand while shooting, the champion in this still the PM, although all of our designers brush apparently different from the rest of humanity, not razebat hand gate is simply impossible))

Thanks for the detailed response, podcherpul for a bit useless but interesting information))

Hartman - Guest

16:22 - June 3, 2011

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Ergonomics for Russian - it's just a word in the dictionary between "erection" and "electricity." :)

While here the PM - not a bad word I say never any podlyany saw him. Can pinch, yes. And so - quite a pistol. It is in style - simple, cheap and reliable to ugliness. and it can be used to produce something more interesting, if Cho. :)

Although it all - pure preference level "like-dislike". The tool is simple. What is more convenient, which is stronger, which is cheaper, full of exact - all it is a business. As a hammer or an ax - they are different


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