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| Sereban - Member 15:48 - July 16th, 2009 Posts 6 |
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| long_boy - Expert Ukraine, Zhitomir 16:55 - July 16th, 2009 236 posts |
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| Oh, I do not believe that would be on the matrix they perstal year embossing, is there not a time of war in 2009 still? HZ that for a trick! Waiting for answers pro! | |
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| kypexin - Administrator 17:00 - July 16th, 2009 1670 posts |
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| I myself have asked experts, waiting for opinions :) My opinion - 80% sure it's a fake. Look at the loop. Zippo can not make such a sloppy and curve loop. Or is it a marriage, which is not known as slipped through the quality control system. A little later publish other opinions other pros :) | |
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| Diokhan - Member 16:17 - July 17th, 2009 Posts 60 |
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| I think lighter by 99% real, look at the markings on hotjaby screw that tightens the flint, she was going to the factory, that's only a year ... maybe spices whom she slaughtered, there is no damage on the inner surface of the body? (And seller who this miracle you still vparil knows about the production line every comma) sereban dear you did not ask, maybe he's up and running? insert exactly natural, head on to the cross section and on the case, says Mr. Kurehin while not holding anything out of it we can not say .. |
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| kypexin - Administrator 17:07 - July 17th, 2009 1670 posts |
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| Diokhan writes: insert exactly natural, head on to the cross section and on the case, says Mr. Kurehin while not holding anything out of it we can not say ..
Hinge looks very suspicious, that's what confuses me. Zippo does such sloppy loops. | |
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| kypexin - Administrator 17:18 - July 17th, 2009 1670 posts |
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| These appear as the left to compare with this right:   | |
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| Sereban - Member 18:18 - July 17th, 2009 Posts 6 |
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| Good all day! Thanks for answering my question. On the inner surface of the body where the month of manufacture can be traced an inverted V, and where little slurred vmyatinka year. I chose this lighter here: http://www.zippocasemuseum.com ..... uctdetails And people in Moscow and ordered me to relay. In principle, in his honesty, I do not doubt how much of it until the only positive feedback. I even think it happened: he received a parcel of this site, then it is checked whether or not the model, do not even think of taking the boxes and sent to me. Very strange story this year, and so for several days with not releasing this lighter, while only positive impression, clear click when peeling off, too clear and sonorous closing, insert included tight enough, as they say vpritirochku not hang out in general I think it should. When closed, the upper body to the lower snug without zazorchikov and distortions, opening the springs, everything works well. In the absence of the original Zippo petrol tucked in Newport, lit with a twist, a good spark, no bloat. What else to say I do not know, except for the absence, in the lighter suits all. Thanks again for your comments, as I will be grateful for the new opinions. |
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| kypexin - Administrator 18:25 - July 17th, 2009 1670 posts |
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| Message edited 18:26 - July 17, 2009 user kypexin
Separate subtlety in the fact that the site zipocasemuseum.com NOT send parcels outside the United States. Ie somewhere in the U.S. was another intermediary, well, or you have chosen the model on the site, and the lighter actually came from another online store that in general no difference. But it's just a word. | |
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| Golden-Joker - Maniac 13:14 - July 18th, 2009 856 posts |
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| well, I still think fake, agree about negligence loop, and if you look at the letter A (signifying series armor) clearly stamped. |
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| kypexin - Administrator 17:22 - July 20th, 2009 1670 posts |
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| In general, the verdict is: 80% is a manufacturing defect, which for some reason has slipped quality control and hit the sale. A very rare case. 20% - a fake. But not knowing 100% accurate origin of the lighters can only claim like this about. | |
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| Golden-Joker - Maniac 17:35 - July 20th, 2009 856 posts |
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| If marriage is a rare specimen obtained :) |
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| evgen74 - Member 21:14 - July 20th, 2009 Posts 47 |
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| Good all the time! I have a similar case. Also "Armor"-only "Brushed Chrome", also year almost not visible, but still slightly visible, the first digit is 0, the second seems to 9, but not vidno.Uvazhaemy "Sereban", I suspect that the lighter you ordered Ilyas, right? I saw your line of gratitude on the forum it is still the last, but all the same I tend pologat that our true lighters zippo, me, my, it also inspires complete confidence and this zippo I have not the first and it was from this man, I already received and lighters, and canister zippo, and Learn-lovers zippo I read for this person only positive feedback. In his Flint I'm 100% sure, though absolutely trust in such matters can only be our administrator, but perhaps more Korolusu :). I already wrote in the forum "Vulnerability zippo", that he killed his "Armor" to experience burning and respected kypexin, advised to send in Korolus lighter, I do not have time to do this, but very soon I will start to call them, that's when I told them send it (if Korolus give "good"), then we know that this is for shtampom.S respect ... P: S (photo not yet possible to lay out) |
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| evgen74 - Member 21:25 - July 20th, 2009 Posts 47 |
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| Lord look closely (on the first two photos is clearly visible) that the last letter in the inscription USA, is also very poorly stamped, I tend to think that this is just a small marriage, although it can not be called marriage, because the lighter-works fine, I'm right Sereban? |
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| yadsok - Guest 23:52 - July 20th, 2009 |
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| On my "armor" is the same garbage. Year (09) barely ugadyvaetsya.A the rest, as they say, FIRE! |
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| botas - Expert 1:09 - July 21, 2009 530 posts |
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| yadsok writes: On my "armor" is the same garbage. Year (09) barely ugadyvaetsya.A the rest, as they say, FIRE!
And the pictures can upload? It is interesting to look so compared with Zippy Sereban'a. |
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| Golden-Joker - Maniac 1:21 - July 21, 2009 856 posts |
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| I think this is related to the thickness of the metal, the pres sometimes pierces the metal thickness of the thickened! |
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| kypexin - Administrator 1:27 - July 21, 2009 1670 posts |
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| Golden-Joker wrote: I think this is related to the thickness of the metal, the pres sometimes pierces the metal thickness of the thickened!
Ow! And all engineers Zippo probably scratching their head sitting with what it could be related :))) | |
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| Golden-Joker - Maniac 1:34 - July 21, 2009 856 posts |
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| That would take me as an engineer, and it would not be such a problem :))) |
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| Golden-Joker - Maniac 17:00 - July 21, 2009 856 posts |
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| Message edited 17:28 - July 21, 2009 user kypexin
Here at Zippy browsing and found that's it! look! Similar copy! but it is 100% original! .JPG) .JPG) .JPG) |
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| yadsok - New member 19:53 - July 21, 2009 Posts 1 |
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| evgen74 - Member 20:04 - July 21, 2009 Posts 47 |
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| Message edited 21:30 - July 21, 2009 user kypexin
Guys, here's a picture of my "Armora". I apologize yet more reason, the pictures are not added, try later.   |
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| evgen74 - Member 20:29 - July 21, 2009 Posts 47 |
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| Message edited 22:10 - July 21, 2009 user evgen74
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| kypexin - Administrator 20:38 - July 21, 2009 1670 posts |
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| Well here at least partially visible year :) | |
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| Golden-Joker - Maniac 20:41 - July 21, 2009 856 posts |
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| and I generally do not have it though :) USS punched perfectly! So here is another category of collectibles Zippo bulk stamp :)))) |
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| zorn - Guest 20:56 - July 21, 2009 |
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| Interesting observations, never seen Zippo with strange stamps. |
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| evgen74 - Member 21:01 - July 21, 2009 Posts 47 |
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| It seems to me (if you look good), the first two pictures "Sereban"-and then also difficult to see faint imprint year, look carefully. |
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| Golden-Joker - Maniac 21:01 - July 21, 2009 856 posts |
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| Soon and not ever see, here I am in their Pokapaysya today, something else may find strange :) |
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| Sereban - Member 22:01 - July 21, 2009 Posts 6 |
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| Good day Dear fans lighters zippo. Many thanks to all for the opinions expressed! Read and calmed down. Although, as I wrote earlier that the integrity of the seller and no doubt still puzzling over this strange stamp. Now, from your messages and photos, you can see that this is not an isolated case in the production of lighters Zippo. первая цифра точно ноль, вторая скорей всего девятка. Today bottom of a body slightly polirnul on felt circle with pasta goyim, it became clear a little bit better, something like the photo Evgen74 respected, but worse still, the first digit exactly zero, the second probably nine. The rest of the lighter did not disappoint, works perfectly, the day to get it and light a hundred times probably okay. I apologize that messy explain. Once again thank you for the comments. |
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| Golden-Joker - Maniac 22:11 - July 21, 2009 856 posts |
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| It would be for that from my side :) |
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| Sereban - Member 22:11 - July 21, 2009 Posts 6 |
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| I think the theme should still be useful, because the distinguished Golden-Joker found in his collection lighter without year. As I understand you've never paid attention to it? |
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