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The question of authenticity

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Vladimir - Guest

13:51 - 10 May 2011

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Message edited 14:30 - May 10, 2011 by Vladimir


Good day!

Bought here Zippo Armor 169. But doubts crept ... 1) there are traces of die processing in the form of strips, pointed arrows on the photo. 2) The loop in my opinion is uneven, a big gap at the bottom. 3) Follow the sealant on the insert. Is it permissible for a genuine Zippo? And that thought already creep and not fake it ...

Thank you in advance for your reply. And of course I congratulate all on the last holiday!

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

14:03 - 10 May 2011

1860 posts

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Unfortunately your photo for some reason it is not visible. Traces of "sealant" I believe visible inside the insert? This is normal.

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

14:06 - 10 May 2011

1860 posts

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Now, you can see ... It's not Zippo.

Vladimir - Guest

14:37 - 10 May 2011

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Message edited 15:01 - May 10, 2011 by Vladimir


So it's just a fake? Just bought on the forum, there dealer sells them for a long time and vouches for authenticity, you need your confirmation, so as not to be unfounded upon presentation of satisfactions, added another photo.

Advance grateful.

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

14:42 - 10 May 2011

1860 posts

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IMHO, terrible leftist .. my opinion is not the last resort, wait until other users unsubscribe ...

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

14:43 - 10 May 2011

1860 posts

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Message edited 15:02 - May 10, 2011 by Gorynych5


Firstly armor always, flat bottom, and secondly it is a model 169 high-polish-solid-brass, thirdly bukavok such curves on the stamp and housing and the insert just does not happen ...

Vladimir - Guest

15:04 - 10 May 2011

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Thank you for the answer. Then wait until more opinions, and do not blame the man hunting groundless, bought here http://talks.guns.ru/forum_lig ..... 23050.html now think ...

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

15:13 - 10 May 2011

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Vladimir is certainly worth the wait for other statements, but when you added a couple of shots, I 99.9% sure that your purchase of a fake, unfortunately ...

Vladimir - Guest

15:15 - 10 May 2011

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Message edited 15:28 - May 10, 2011 by Vladimir


The bottom flat like her, that's a photo from another angle, there still there on my photos it seems like rippled, in fact it is completely polished, smooth, there's just glare. Can you tell me what else may need to determine the photo? Thanks in advance.

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

15:25 - 10 May 2011

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Look at the little letters on the die as possible so photographed, but just insert shows that curves really knocked the year 2010, where 0 is less than 1, almost half even with vision -5 hard not to notice ;)

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

15:31 - 10 May 2011

1860 posts

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Riveting loops in native Zippy they always uneven, but always clearly in the middle of your lower photo strongly shifted to the right, well white flint, and all his family, he inserts Zsolt, well, a lot of other nuances ...

Vladimir - Guest

15:47 - 10 May 2011

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Message edited 16:03 - May 10, 2011 by Vladimir


Re-shooting, she glares infection, distort photos (10 bit flat, here perasnyatye photo inserts, yellow flint well, it just blends, because insert himself too yellow to match the body, but the magnet insert.

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

17:01 - 10 May 2011

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As in! You know, maybe I did wrong, and lighter authentic. This perspective is very different.

Vladimir - Guest

18:38 - 10 May 2011

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Here are pictures on the other hand inserts and loop perefotografiroval. Difficult but brilliant to photograph constantly stray reflections ...

Alexander - Guest

18:43 - 10 May 2011

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I'm no expert, but the loop is not always in the middle. for example in the article Kuryokhin "Fake lighters Zippo" lighter compared two Jack Daniels, fake and real. http://zippocollector.ru/archi ..... # 1975 ; so there is at present also loop slipped up, and below the gap.

Alexander - Guest

19:03 - 10 May 2011

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I'm no expert, but the loop is not always in the middle. for example in the article Kuryokhin "Fake lighters Zippo" lighter compared two Jack Daniels, fake and real. http://zippocollector.ru/archi ..... # 1975 ; so there is at present also loop slipped up, and below the gap.

Alexander - Guest

19:18 - 10 May 2011

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Message edited 23:33 - May 10, 2011 by Alexander



faust - Maniac

Moscow

23:55 - 10 May 2011

674 posts

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yes normal Zippo brachok just some.

Truckdriver - Expert

0:18 - May 11, 2011

Posts 206

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In general armors "left" do? If someone saw this, what bluff bother, not easier to do the usual.

salonik - Member

11:45 - 11 May 2011

Posts 125

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Message edited 11:55 - May 11, 2011 by salonik


Check very simple reliable method that describes Vladimir Mihnovich: http://zippocollector.ru/archi ..... Ippo-Fakes . I personally when buying their first zippo did. Helped. Maybe it is genuine, but has already been in a terrible repair?

salonik - Member

11:49 - 11 May 2011

Posts 125

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Message edited 11:53 - May 11, 2011 by salonik



Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

12:31 - 11 May 2011

1860 posts

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No trace of the horrific repair I do not see)) Just the first photo provided Vladimir were of such quality that I was mistaken. But such cross-stripes on the bottom left when opening the lighter beer bottles. By the way, is it so seriously piece of brass? If even (well, all of a sudden?) And a copy of it, the quality is so that I would not bother. What is the main problem of substandard imitations? Rough handling and inefficiency, to wick hole is too narrow, which prevents fuel normally evaporate silicon stuck in the well. These are the schools of the device does not make the joy and headache. And if it works, then it is you need to try to find out the truth? ;)

salonik - Member

12:46 - 11 May 2011

Posts 125

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For a man not fond of it, of course, does not matter, but if a person really wants to get to the truth, then why not zamorochitsya. And if he came up with this question on this site, we believe its true origins are still interested in this piece of metal. A Zippo open beer bottles - I think barbarism. :))

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

12:49 - 11 May 2011

1860 posts

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Barbarism, even here it has been suggested for this ban immediately)))

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

12:55 - 11 May 2011

1860 posts

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And about the authenticity was an anecdote about the man at the doctor:

Doctor know, I was not every time you go to women.

-Darling, Well Well do you want? You have this age ..

Doctor, my neighbor is 5 years older than me, and says it can several times during the night ..

My dear, and you all say so ;)

salonik - Member

13:03 - 11 May 2011

Posts 125

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In general, buy fakes and proudly flaunt them!))))

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

14:07 - 11 May 2011

1860 posts

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salonik writes:

In general, buy fakes and proudly flaunt them!))))


Why rush to extremes, do not only see black and white, in the spectrum of the rainbow plenty of other shades. There are samples that can not even determine the Bradford factory workers themselves, and indeed it now produces enough curves-slanting articles bounding when opening inserts, "double" stamps. Of course there are fakes in the rough hands take something nasty, but Zippy and relatives are far from ideal, in the end there is such a thing as a "defective product" and something tells me not passed the "OTC" is not rejected, and fall on the shelves "floating away" from the factory for half-price. Rhetorical question: Which is better defective curve Lighter from Bradford or qualitatively made Uncle Liao imitation? For me, as for the user answer is obvious, for it is diametrically opposed to the collector ;)

salonik - Member

15:15 - 11 May 2011

Posts 125

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Gorynych5 writes:

salonik writes:

In general, buy fakes and proudly flaunt them!))))


Why rush to extremes, do not only see black and white, in the spectrum of the rainbow plenty of other shades. There are samples that can not even determine the Bradford factory workers themselves, and indeed it now produces enough curves-slanting articles bounding when opening inserts, "double" stamps. Of course there are fakes in the rough hands take something nasty, but Zippy and relatives are far from ideal, in the end there is such a thing as a "defective product" and something tells me not passed the "OTC" is not rejected, and fall on the shelves "floating away" from the factory for half-price. Rhetorical question: Which is better defective curve Lighter from Bradford or qualitatively made Uncle Liao imitation? For me, as for the user answer is obvious, for it is diametrically opposed to the collector ;)


Regarding the production zippo - note not know. And on account of the relationship for good fakes do not agree; yet I have only two real and one fake Zippo, but despite this smallness and lack of proper experience think it's better to have and use these lighters and qualitative performance than using a well-functioning, high-quality lighter and not really think of who did it. Why then do give preference to zippo? If so, and to be faithful till the end ;) I believe that it is not extreme.

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

15:40 - 11 May 2011

1860 posts

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Then begins to repeat the situation with Chinese cars, the first experiments on the production were very funny, and even zhYguli Muscovites zarulivaem these trucks in minus, but the Chinese are fast learners, but European concerns opposite fewer and fewer are paying attention to quality, and here it turns out that Chinese tightened slightly in terms of quality, and vice versa white man began to do shit, and now we see in the market are two kinds of shit: Chinese and European. And I would like cars .. IMHO Zippo comes with something like ... I love this brand, but the quality IMHO greatly decreased in recent years and it's sad ...

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

15:40 - 11 May 2011

1860 posts

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Message edited 15:43 - May 11, 2011 by Gorynych5




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