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| Dillinger - Guest 17:41 - April 1, 2009 |
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| Zdravstvuyte.Ya read your note about comparing models Zippo 1941 sovremennoy.Vernee otlichiyah.U about them before I had already purchased this zazhigalka.Ne I can say that I collect them, but very much pulling me on the internet staroe.Uvidel Zippo model 1941 and kupil.Konechno when later then climb on site and compare it with the original time, razocharovalsya.Da course, hull shape, amount of holes and all matches on this wheel ... modern, plate under the wick without bending stamp on insert also does not correspond to vremeni.Ne know, but if the company announces the release of copies of lighters in 1941, then they must comply with those issued in 1941 year. |
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| kypexin - Administrator 18:46 - April 1, 2009 1670 posts |
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| Well actually a 100% match in detail between the original and the copy to promise it would be strange - do not forget that some serial parts lighter (the same wheel, and springs, etc.) since 1941 have seriously changed. In the development of the same new wheel company Zippo in 1950 invested about $ 300,000 - and all for longer life and greater reliability (old wheels wear out quickly)! Specifically to restore the production of all the old parts would be pretty expensive, imagine how much would then cost an exact copy :) So this model replicates the original in general, the main features, but it is still a modern filling. It's like a model, for example, number "antique" - similar in appearance, and filling it will still CONTEMPORARY. Company Zippo, at least, repeated in this replica 1941 hull form and is the main external difference :) | |
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| Dillinger. - Member 19:34 - April 1, 2009 Posts 94 |
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| Yeah, everything is true, I just thought that the old parts could remain in warehouses and then be used in production. |
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| ded - Guest 20:20 - April 7, 2009 |
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| On the original military Sipo 1941, which by the way, came with American corned beef (1 per box), there is a line, I'm on the Internet I can not find the photos, what would this line of view, help who knows!) Incidentally, this is reliable information, and I was told at a flea market, and the grandson of the owner who brought it to the Second World War, only now showing all of his hands, keeps in a safe))) I do it, unfortunately, I do not see this current stories granddaughter))) |
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| solobok - Member 4:12 - April 8, 2009 Posts 109 |
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| Dillinger wrote: Zdravstvuyte.Ya read your note about comparing models Zippo 1941 sovremennoy.Vernee otlichiyah.U about them before I had already purchased this zazhigalka.Ne I can say that I collect them, but very much pulling me on the internet staroe.Uvidel Zippo model 1941 and kupil.Konechno when later then climb on site and compare it with the original time, razocharovalsya.Da course, hull shape, amount of holes and all matches on this wheel ... modern, plate under the wick without bending stamp on insert also does not correspond to vremeni.Ne know, but if the company announces the release of copies of lighters in 1941, then they must comply with those issued in 1941 year.
I also differences disappointed. But, on the other hand, the excitement begins here and Collector: learning about the replica, I certainly wanted to get it just because it is "cooler" than the usual modern form. Learning about the incompleteness of the replica copy - set out to find the original. Having learned that they are wrong with the patent on the stamp - wanted to find it was "erroneous." And so on. Probably, this develops a taste: in search of an "unusual" and "present." The next step, by the way, was the search for the old, and even hand-engraved or decorated Zippo. Not to see the old Italian silver Zippo with colored enamel? Incredible beauty, although there only from the factory insert. Housing - product jeweler and artist, but ... it's not a product, it is - a masterpiece. |
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| ded - Guest 6:51 - April 8, 2009 |
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| Dear users, I would like to see a picture of tickers or kollichesvto great photos of the 1941 model year Zippo! In etomkto anything can help?) |
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| kypexin - Administrator 10:14 - April 8, 2009 1670 posts |
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| ded, I honestly do not really understand what "ticker" speech, can explain? Zippo 1941-45 photos can be seen here: http://zippocollector.ru/archi ..... es/tag/ww2 or here: http://zippocollector.com/ or here: http://zippogallery.com/WWII. htm | |
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| Dillinger. - Member 13:14 - April 8, 2009 Posts 94 |
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| solobok writes:
I also differences disappointed. But, on the other hand, the excitement begins here and Collector: learning about the replica, I certainly wanted to get it just because it is "cooler" than the usual modern form. Learning about the incompleteness of the replica copy - set out to find the original. Having learned that they are wrong with the patent on the stamp - wanted to find it was "erroneous." And so on. Probably, this develops a taste: in search of an "unusual" and "present." The next step, by the way, was the search for the old, and even hand-engraved or decorated Zippo. Not to see the old Italian silver Zippo with colored enamel? Incredible beauty, although there only from the factory insert. Housing - product jeweler and artist, but ... it's not a product, it is - a masterpiece.
I do not know about the Italian who had never videl.A way if you have the desire and time lay out pictures of my collection, it would be very interesting to see!  |
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| ded - Guest 20:19 - April 8, 2009 |
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| kypexin writes: ded, I honestly do not really understand what "ticker" speech, can explain? Zippo 1941-45 photos can be seen here: http://zippocollector.ru/archi ..... es/tag/ww2 or here: http://zippocollector.com/ or here: http://zippogallery.com/WWII. htm
That's it, you're giving links to Zippo in 1941, just as I am interested in photography so that Zippo has been in boxes with stewed meat, one on the box, she was with the ticker, because cover Sipo (including replica) 1941 reclines 180 degrees. Looking picture, who knows, help!) |
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| kypexin - Administrator 20:37 - April 8, 2009 1670 posts |
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| I honestly the first time I heard and never in my life seen a Zippo ticker (if you mean a ruler to measure the length) - so it it was either homemade stamped line, or it was not a Zippo :) | |
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| ded - Guest 22:48 - April 8, 2009 |
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| I have a friend, he had his grandfather such power, he lives far away and the pictures difficult to do so, and even at a flea market told Ragman, said that prices for it start at $ 500, it does not Sell Now, it during WWII manned box stew for amerianskoy Army! in general, this is very expensive Zippo!) Well, you know, could not have two different svoershenno, independent and located at a distance of 5000 kilometers away from each source to cheat with a difference of 2 months))) |
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| kypexin - Administrator 22:53 - April 8, 2009 1670 posts |
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| Yeah, I'm not saying that they cheated :) I've just never seen such Zippy on any debt collection site in any book or at an auction. That is not to do the company itself Zippo, I'm sure 99%. "Ragman" from some markets as I do not believe at all :) So, you know, I would be happy to help, etc., but no pictures - alas, I will not help anything. Zippo collectors of such a model is unknown :) | |
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| solobok - Member 1:25 - 9 April 2009 Posts 109 |
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| Message Edit 1:30 - April 9, 2009 user solobok
Dillinger. writes:
I do not know about the Italian who had never videl.A way if you have the desire and time lay out pictures of my collection, it would be very interesting to see! 
Time is, but there is no desire: to spread the standard makes no sense. :) And old exclusive yet I have little to boast no reason. Here podnakoplyu more military, then ... This is my now "theme" - military zippo. Now I think about the Korean War. Before I look for Africa '40s, then Normandy and Iceland. Yes, and Vietnam would like more different. For example, Ya-Drang 1965 "Harry Owen" would simply be a star collection ... To light of it - and to revise once again "We Were Soldiers" ... About Italian: samples can be found on sites like this. These lighters really be called "Italian", because it makes their body actually Italian jewelers. Sometimes the old building covered with a kind of "salary", and sometimes completely replaced. There are also often had meetings with silver Japanese deities of Buddhism and / or Shinto or scenery: Fuji, temples, boats with fishermen, etc. This stuff navezli many soldiers returning after the occupation of Japan in the second half of the forties. There are similar "yuvelirki" Mexican, Burmese, etc. And all it ever wants to get hold of the collection, at least one sample of ... Collecting - a great and effective stimulus for making large (accent over the "O" or "I" - optional) money. And I'm not kidding. kypexin writes: Zippo collectors of such a model is unknown :)
Yeah, this mythology zippo ... More precisely, mythmaking. One guy told me that he himself had seen the first model zippo, which has no insert is removed and the hole for filling - right at the bottom of the case. I somehow even if it never occurred to ask: "flint as she changes"? |
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| Skald - Guest 11:19 - April 9, 2009 |
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| To the distinguished Kuryokhin. And by the way could you do a review of the differences in the spirit of the 1941 replica lighters on the differences between conventional and genuine replica lighters 38-41 years? |
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| kypexin - Administrator 11:41 - April 9, 2009 1670 posts |
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| Skald - Guest 12:11 - April 9, 2009 |
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| Thank you! It will be interesting =) |
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| botas - Expert 3:03 - April 11, 2009 530 posts |
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| Message Edit 4:31 - April 11, 2009 user botas
Oh, Replica 1941 ... I could not pass by you today. Watched for a long time. Bought. Brushed Brass. Nice. Direct front sides, rough side: very nice in the hand (kyrexin, thanks for the tip :)) In the shop was also a 1941 Replica Brushed Chrome, twirled in his hand and is no longer considered. Because 2007 was the first year, and Brushed Brass - 2005 (preference to older on the date of release). And like yellow. Copper spraying makes a replica interesting Feels Like - like even older her face darkens rapidly on contact plus specific heavy brass smell (which an amateur, I would say not yet used) - the feeling that she was not 5 years and 20 years. Well, 4-link hinge lid 7 hole-through windshield and riveting wheel confirm her, even pseudo but retro uniqueness. Oh, I forgot, also stamped on the ass under the "that" time, of course :) RS It turns out that in-HETE can be found and "waterproof" Zippo. Quote: "1941 REPLICA ™ HAND SATIN - Sterling (silver 925) Silver Zippo. 1941 REPLICA ™ HAND SATIN different from today's familiar to all light waterproof Zippo. This model - Zippo lighters copy of 1941 release. It has a more rounded corners and flat sides. Cover the base attached using chetyrehbarrelovogo rod, as well as in the project in 1941 (in current lighters was replaced pyatibarrelovy rod)
Internal structure is almost completely original copies.
1941 REPLICA ™ HAND SATIN comes in cardboard boxes branded "
In both. . I want a simple, reliable, easy to waterproof Zippo pyatibarrelovym rod. But that was ignited at least%) |
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| Golden-Joker - Maniac 17:35 - 11 April 2009 856 posts |
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| ehh, it's waterproof tsonechno cool . so imagine swim, swim, swim ashore take cigarette pulled out of the Zippo wet shorts and snip! ....... lights  |
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| botas - Expert 17:31 - 12 April 2009 530 posts |
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| Message edited 17:34 - April 12, 2009 user botas
Golden-Joker wrote: swim so swim, swim ashore take cigarette pulled out of the Zippo wet shorts and snip! ....... lights 
Now here I thought it ... So after 2 turns of tape on the joint housing and the cover itself is ... Connoisseurs, prompt: what symbolizes drawing on the box in 1941? 
This is not a pastiche Barcroft case? Or maybe what house? The meaning of "A Week's Trial - Then All The While" - sort of understandable. http://studioshowroom.com/zipp ..... etal2.html |
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| kypexin - Administrator 19:21 - 12 April 2009 1670 posts |
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| Good question about the picture ... never thought about it :) Just a drawing was on the boxes Zippo from the beginning, in 1933. But that means I try to look :) | |
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| Dillinger. - Member 14:49 - 13 April 2009 Posts 94 |
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| And in what boxes go replica 35 and 37 years? Under identical or there is a change ... |
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| kypexin - Administrator 0:17 - April 15, 2009 1670 posts |
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| model 1937 was used in such an (or a conventional plastic) replica 1935 - her box with Varga Girl, in fact, a copy of the box and it was in 1935 | |
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| solobok - Member 0:36 - April 15, 2009 Posts 109 |
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| Seen on eBay a couple of times a replica 1941 "black krekl." There is a flat-bottomed, where a stamp worth in a gilded box (even in a shop next to the house saw, but by that time I already got this, not inspired), but even across the black convex bottom. In the closed form does not distinguish from the original, but still within the insert of the new sample, unfortunately, as we all replicas. And they, and others saw the enclosed box - paper copies of the Second World War. As I understand it, those with a convex bottom - again for the Japanese market, however, is not so sure. |
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| kypexin - Administrator 1:02 - April 15, 2009 1670 posts |
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| Yes, it's "Japanese" likely :) :) uncontrolled | |
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| Golden-Joker - Maniac 22:38 - 31 May 2009 856 posts |
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| They all mad in this case  |
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| solobok - Member 5:07 - June 1, 2009 Posts 109 |
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| One real positive consequence of our discussions can already see: again began to use its replica, which until then something is not the first month lay "dry". Now again went to the "rotation". And I rejoice in it! Still, there may be said about the original or non-compliance, and in his hand and work 41 th replica is very pleasant! |
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| Golden-Joker - Maniac 0:27 - June 2, 2009 856 posts |
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| I do not know how to work, I think printsepe is not much different, although there are nuances, but in hand obsolyutno agree, is very nice  |
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| Alexander - Guest 19:23 - 3 March 2011 |
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| can anyone knows how to tell a real lighter 40s from the fake, seen in an Internet advertisement for the sale of such, but for such a rarity price seemed a bit too low. Here is the link to it: http://www.avito.ru/items/mosk y_23022627 ..... thanks in advance for your reply. |
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| faust - Maniac Moscow 20:32 - 3 March 2011 674 posts |
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| Ð ° Ð »ÐμÐ º ÑÐ ° Ð ½ Ð'Ñ writes: can anyone knows how to tell a real lighter 40s from the fake, seen in an Internet advertisement for the sale of such, but for such a rarity price seemed a bit too low. Here is the link to it: http://www.avito.ru/items/mosk y_23022627 ..... thanks in advance for your reply.
No, this is not the WWII |
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| oniks1 - Maniac Moscow 20:54 - 3 March 2011 1323 posts |
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| Zippo And if it will ever ... :)) |
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