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| ultrain - Expert 4:04 - May 23, 2012 Posts 166 |
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| I site loaded normally, and can in principle be faster! Average Cost 1600r site maintenance and engine. Our site has 1498 members, if for 1rublyu chip month's your normal engine on the site, but for a $ 100, an almost 150 thousand, then you can put this engine! I am ready to transfer each month 100rubley the needs of the site, say the membership fee! For themselves, not to suffer! If so to take root, then all normal clubs and communities have some contributions to make their exhibitions, club badges released, some activities, but take the same basic lighter from our zippocollector.ru contributions would be without key problems can be would each member of the club every year to produce jig! IMHO this is my point of view, as I have long stalknulsya this, but only on the sports line. |
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| shturman1998 - Maniac 4:34 - May 23, 2012 791 posts |
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| I fully support this idea!! I for $ 10 per year |
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| ultrain - Expert 6:24 - May 23, 2012 Posts 166 |
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| $ 10 a year is nothing, 25rubley monthly eato if multiplied by the 1498 participants is almost 15 000 000 dollars, and this gentlemen about 450 000, is not only possible dvizhek online stir and jig each member of the club to produce, organize annual summer vacation for example in some motels Mediocre! besides paying club members who are not in Russia and in the CIS countries the same tickets to recreational club! Here for example kuryan lives in Tashkent and the same flight would cost him to Moscow roundtrip 3 million soums, which is an average of 20 rubles a 000rubley, and in fact there is a lot of money, and so if the $ 10 annual fee will make (it is about 25 000sumov, 2tys soums a month is a trifle), then fly to Russia and meet with all his will as well as other very nice week to rest and get a T-shirt, cap and a jig and it is VERY VERY klubski! Overall I gave the idea, let her continue in rows or No Deal Volodya and the whole team! And as always, you can decide!) |
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| Kuryan - Expert Tashkent 8:21 - May 23, 2012 479 posts |
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| Yes, we have a ticket to Moscow and back costs nemeryannom :) Some do not collect for the year, even if nothing to eat at all ...... True, I stopped flying all planes, somehow afraid but Flown uzho :) Until the army, in the army, well, then little, now I try not to go anywhere at all ..... |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 8:31 - May 23, 2012 1860 posts |
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| Message Edit 8:43 - May 23, 2012 user Gorynych5
I've registered on many sites of different subjects. $ 100 a month is not much money, and if 1000 or 3000, or ...? Membership should be free. A contact Volodya and learn where and how to send the "extra" money to develop a website no one is prohibited? 1498 just for the participants, most left one by registering one or two answers and more on the website does not appear, the other part were generally adman (ban as such we have a malicious post is removed, and a registered nick Gnehm remains in the database). More real need to look at things: How much is a day of unique visitors? I do not think more than two dozen. Of these, someone came or went just look at the link on the search request Zippo. So fantastic $ 15,000 turn into penny. This is my personal opinion ... |
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| kypexin - Administrator 9:23 - May 23, 2012 1670 posts |
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| Gorynych5 writes: Well, not a fountain .... But in my mind there were two or three times "pale young man with burning eyes" and promised to translate the site for free on a new engine and "vaaasche everything's cool." So does these negotiations and have not ended. Someone in the morning sober just ran someone to communicate with the administrator voiced on the price "for free" and sends a "forest to her grandmother with a basket of pies" ;-)
It's not quite that. I personally do not mind the new engine. The question is what will labor to transfer the site to a new engine, and the process is likely to be accompanied also change the entire design and so on, but the main thing is to keep all the same content and functionality is pretty huge volume :) One friend offered me a new engine separately for the forum, but question the transfer of the whole being offline (and preferably maintaining the link structure) is quite heavy, the lift well or very costly. | |
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| kypexin - Administrator 9:29 - May 23, 2012 1670 posts |
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| Guys, you are all good reasoning :) But understand, paid membership - it's not quite the topic, especially in the Russian context. And plus, a paid membership will automatically be taken to imply that someone on the project will work on a more or less permanent basis - the same moderators, at least one programmer and so on - well, one of those reasons, that the money that a person pays for membership, he pays primarily essentially for the development and support of the project and some service :) I am very glad that the site is live, but to actively develop its just me no effort or time. And That's so, site itself now costs not particularly expensive, about 600 rubles a month for Shared hosting (which parallel a few of my sites live), well, plus the domain once a year to renew, but it's a penny at all. | |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 9:31 - May 23, 2012 1860 posts |
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| From the relocation of the terms ... When you move the database "for inexpensive on the knee" loss of information is inevitable, but "for the expensive" does not make sense. Our "brake" the engine has an advantage: There is a time to think, "Is it worth it to post garbage, maybe I got a little excited?"  |
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| kypexin - Administrator 9:32 - May 23, 2012 1670 posts |
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| Gorynych5 writes:
More real need to look at things: How much is a day of unique visitors? I do not think more than two dozen. Of these, someone came or went just look at the link on the search request Zippo. So fantastic $ 15,000 turn into penny. This is my personal opinion ...
Dragon, but you would not believe - unique living people every day around 500-600 comes :) Another issue that 95% of them - is often transitions from search engines, well, some of them like the site more or less, but active participants in the same forum, I think the remaining 5% and fall, no more. | |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 9:40 - May 23, 2012 1860 posts |
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| Nope, I will not believe Volodya. As far as I understand most of these 500-600 it's still not "unique living" and the search engine spiders - once inserted in other forums pictures from the site - two; |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 9:51 - May 23, 2012 1860 posts |
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| Periodically come across when searching on our articles yours_truly, with photo painfully familiar to my own ass lighters placed on other resources apparently without him, your and my permission. A photo where? On our server. It is loaded, and the counter registers parish member. Maybe I'm wrong or poorly understood, but somehow I "bearded odmin" explained))) |
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| kypexin - Administrator 10:13 - 23 May 2012 1670 posts |
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| Gorynych5 writes: Periodically come across when searching on our articles yours_truly, with photo painfully familiar to my own ass lighters placed on other resources apparently without him, your and my permission. A photo where? On our server. It is loaded, and the counter registers parish member. Maybe I'm wrong or poorly understood, but somehow I "bearded odmin" explained)))
Wrong :) I'm talking about comes to your site (ie opening a browser at least one page), not podgruzku pictures with him. | |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 10:23 - 23 May 2012 1860 posts |
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| Well, so much so. And anyway actively flooding 10 people here. This is without any counters and computer programs can be seen))) |
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| Val1730 - Expert 11:21 - 23 May 2012 158 posts |
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| Gorynych5 writes: Well, so much so. And anyway actively flooding 10 people here. This is without any counters and computer programs can be seen)))
This is true :) On other forums of the lighters and even less :) |
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| kypexin - Administrator 13:36 - 23 May 2012 1670 posts |
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| Val1730 writes: Gorynych5 writes: Well, so much so. And anyway actively flooding 10 people here. This is without any counters and computer programs can be seen)))
This is true :) On other forums of the lighters and even less :)
And that there are "others" forums? :)))))))))) | |
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| Val1730 - Expert 13:50 - 23 May 2012 158 posts |
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| kypexin writes:
And that there are "others" forums? :))))))))))
Funny ..... Vladimir, I want to cry: (I guess you forgot, let me remind you :) You go out there it's fun ... not as much as before but still ...... http://vintagelighters.ru/forum/ |
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| kypexin - Administrator 14:05 - 23 May 2012 1670 posts |
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| Val1730 writes: kypexin writes:
And that there are "others" forums? :))))))))))
Funny ..... Vladimir, I want to cry: (I guess you forgot, let me remind you :) You go out there it's fun ... not as much as before but still ...... http://vintagelighters.ru/forum/
Oo! Well, exactly the same :))) I missed :) | |
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| Val1730 - Expert 14:11 - 23 May 2012 158 posts |
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| kypexin writes:
Oo! Well, exactly the same :))) I missed :)
Well, Father zhdems return to the lost children :) |
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| ultrain - Expert 14:36 - 23 May 2012 Posts 166 |
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| So what you end up with, who can say how many will dvizhek nor on the knee is not erasing all the information and there is not really much of bots and normal living souls! this question probably to Volodya and modders, they are still the most informatsieyraspolagayut! Roughly estimate though as they say ... to X BOW! |
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| kypexin - Administrator 14:54 - 23 May 2012 1670 posts |
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| ultrain writes: So what you end up with, who can say how many will dvizhek nor on the knee is not erasing all the information and there is not really much of bots and normal living souls! this question probably to Volodya and modders, they are still the most informatsieyraspolagayut! Roughly estimate though as they say ... to X BOW!
But who knows how much will cost. From zero to infinity :))) No, well, seriously, the global alteration of the entire site with a single programmer can cost from 20 to 50 thousand rubles, so if very roughly. About living souls not ready to say. Should look. | |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 15:45 - 23 May 2012 1860 posts |
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| And how many typed "living souls" to buy a real brilliant replica with site logo? How many of them would be willing to pay money is not comparable for the goods, but for the fact that the pages open faster? |
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| ultrain - Expert 15:58 - 23 May 2012 Posts 166 |
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| Well I see and Stas ready to support the site or type of club to make payment!) I think you just have to calculate how many really here at all the living people, not bots!) |
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| ultrain - Expert 16:02 - 23 May 2012 Posts 166 |
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| Message edited 16:15 - May 23, 2012 user ultrain
well, for example if 15 people and typed. If you take the lighters, and $ 100 each month for 18 thousand))) I for example if you'll make $ 100 a month, I have them and unnoticed, then fly thousands!) can do to start some type of e-wallet and go throw , well, for example short unsubscribe, then you can actually start to learn how to do it voplotimo? type of experimentation! and threw unsubscribed type: Bob 100, Peter 50, Misha 500 if go to the masses, and then you can put a minimum membership fee! I give an example, I do professionally rollers (friskeytom) so here except uniforms themselves rollers, wheels, which wear out in a month takes about 5-10 thousand plus about 1 thousand (at least) I'm paying dues that have: 1) Member of the scooter club, 2) belong to a closed group forum 3) competitions, trips, vacation, travel, closed vechrinki members-only club for all the contributions, well, if you can not pull your pocket even with a grab! Personally, it suits me, since in addition to that we meet together, even open rollerball school, absolutely free of charge for beginners who have just started to stand on them! shops are available! Well, something like, I do what, Wedboo Russian site about ZIPPO one and it is a huge plus! |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 16:05 - 23 May 2012 1860 posts |
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| Offered as Volodya voiced address purse where volunteers will be able to send money with note "For a new engine." If you typed the amount sufficient to upgrade, then hurray, forward, if not, then it just will send the money back. As you are such a proposal? |
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| ultrain - Expert 16:20 - 23 May 2012 Posts 166 |
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| Message edited 16:41 - May 23, 2012 user ultrain
so why send back, meaning that if you make a deal, you have to finish it to the end so as not to leave half way! Well if you really quite bad will let Volodya make your pictures and autograph leave there and send it too will be very right! |
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| evenk - Expert Moscow region 17:38 - 23 May 2012 391 posts |
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| Somehow I do not quite understand all this talk about the new engine and tdA that, actually, because I do not like? I-Firefox, to him Fasterfox.Ego timer addon download pages: site-3, 978s, forum-4, 281 with, authorization-5, 202c, in my opinion not so slowly. whether fuss because of the acceleration for a second? |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 18:02 - 23 May 2012 1860 posts |
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| evenk writes: Somehow I do not quite understand all this talk about the new engine and tdA that, actually, because I do not like? I-Firefox, to him Fasterfox.Ego timer addon download pages: site-3, 978s, forum-4, 281 with, authorization-5, 202c, in my opinion not so slowly. whether fuss because of the acceleration for a second?
Personally, I am the current speed is also quite satisfied. Therefore suggest "vote money". |
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| ultrain - Expert 1:26 - May 24, 2012 Posts 166 |
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| So ... no one says that if someone quickly loaded all gud, I have internet up to 25 Mbit / s that part that outgoing, 6 browsers and much more! So do not talk about those who have that loaded quickly, and what the Internet, then the other salt that dvizhek anyway weak, and I have personally tested it on 3G modem! RBC loaded and then faster. It's time. And two, it would be nice to somehow support our club, support, issue of the same year by lighters, some T-shirts with logos, caps, some meetings once a year to organize! I think it's all nice! The same jig that Stas did with what interference pulled 15 people, and not easier just every month for some N-th sum of contributions and do not bathe and float people's brains. I personally had the example registration jig labeled site Stas benefit of a military man, the boy said, the boy did. Another would have scored and sent to all in the return line headstock. I have described above as an example of a sport club that I go running and what are the pros club member has! Want to be a member of the club, hang out, relax, travel, get gift, to be invited, will come and go, no, no violence, but makes also communicate with everyone, but the same closing for example sports season we have a members-only club on the list and all the rest you please get the final pictures of our meetings! Abroad for a long time this is the norm. In general, what is there to write more, so I think everything is clear to all, I am ready to support our site every month ruble without question, let the administration decide of course taking into account the fact that some people we do not live in Russia and in their country of tens of salary times smaller, but still the same funny 100rubley overpower everyone that we did not kollektsioniruem gobies from cigarettes))) will be more expensive and lighter steers)))) |
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| ultrain - Expert 1:31 - May 24, 2012 Posts 166 |
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| ready to support the ruble, though the administration calculates the "living souls" and the arithmetic mean of approximately how much it is necessary that all of us Shit stele and all went and jealous!) |
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| Kuryan - Expert Tashkent 8:47 - May 24, 2012 479 posts |
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| Yes, on the speed of an Internet course also depends on my home megabits likely to work from 2 to 10, and 25 - it can only dream :)))))))) |
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