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ultrain - Expert

4:04 - 23 May 2012

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I have a website to boot normally, you can, in principle, it would be faster! The average cost 1600r site maintenance and engine. Our site has 1498 members, if for 1rublyu chip in a month's your normal engine on the site, but for a $ 100, an almost 150tys, then you can put this engine! I am ready every month 100rubley transfer to the needs of the site, so let's say the membership fee! For themselves, so as not to suffer! If so to take root, then all the normal clubs and communities have some contributions to make these exhibitions, club badges produced, some activities, but the same basic take our lighter from zippocollector.ru contributions would be without key problems can be would each member of the club each year to produce jig! IMHO this is my point of view, as I have with this for a long time stalknulsya, but only on the sports line.

shturman1998 - Maniac

4:34 - 23 May 2012

791 posts

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I fully support this idea !!!!! I have a $ 10 per year

ultrain - Expert

6:24 - 23 May 2012

166 posts

63

$ 10 per year is about anything, 25rubley a month eato if multiplied by the 1498 participants is almost 15 000 thousand dollars, and this gentlemen about 450 000, is not only possible dvizhek online stir and jig each member of the club to produce, organize once a year, for example in the summer holidays in some mediocre motels! besides paying club members who are not in Russia and in the CIS countries the same tickets to destinations of the club! Here for example kuryan lives in Tashkent and the same flight would cost him to Moscow back and forth about 3 million soums, which is an average of 20 rubles a 000rubley, and in fact there is a lot of money, and so if the $ 10 annual fee to make (it's about 25 000sumov, 2tys soums per month, it is a trifle), then fly to Russia and meet with all of it will be like another very nice week to rest and get a T-shirt, cap and a jig and it is VERY VERY klubski! Overall I gave the idea, more to let her into the ranks or no deal Volodya and the whole team! And so it is always possible to solve!)

Kuryan - Expert

Tashkent

8:21 - 23 May 2012

479 posts

64

Yes, we have a ticket to Moscow and back costs nemeryannom :) Some of the year is not collected, even if nothing to eat at all ......

True, I stopped flying all planes, somehow afraid but Flown uzho :) Until the army, in the army, well, then a little, now I try not to go anywhere at all ... ..

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

8:31 - 23 May 2012

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Message Edit 8:43 - May 23, 2012 user Gorynych5


I've registered on many sites of different subjects. $ 100 a month is not a lot of money, and if 1000 or 3000, or ...? Membership should be free. And contact with Volodya and learn where and how to send the "extra" money to develop the site no one is prohibited? 1498 just for the participants, the majority once checking left one or two answers and more on the site did not appear, and the other part of the general were advertising agents (ban as such we do not have a malicious post is removed, and a registered nick Gnehm in the database is). Realistic it is necessary to look at things: How much per day can be unique visitors? I do not think more than two dozen. Of these, someone came to take a look or simply passed on the search link at the request Zippo. So fantastic $ 15,000 converted into pennies. This is my personal opinion ...

kypexin - Administrator

9:23 - 23 May 2012

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Gorynych5 writes:

Well, yes, not a fountain .... But in my mind there were two or three times "pale young man with burning eyes" and promised totally free to translate to the new engine and "vaaasche everything's cool." So does these negotiations and have not ended. Someone in the morning sober just ran away, someone to communicate with the administrator voiced the price of "free of charge" and sends a "forest to her grandmother with a basket of pies";-)


It's not quite the case. I personally do not mind the new engine. The question is, what will be the effort to transfer the site to a new engine, with the process likely will be accompanied also change the entire design and so on, but the main thing is to keep all the same content and functionality is pretty huge amount :) A friend offered me a new engine separately for the forum, but the question of the transfer of the whole being offline (and preferably with the preservation of the structure of links) absolutely too heavy, well, or lifting with very high costs.

kypexin - Administrator

9:29 - 23 May 2012

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Guys, you're all good reasoning :) But understand, the paid membership - it's not quite the topic, especially in the Russian context. And plus, the paid membership automatically to imply that the project someone will work on a more or less permanent basis - the same moderators, at least one programmer and so on - well, one of those reasons, that the money that a person pays for membership, it pays in the first place a matter of fact for the development and support of the project and some service :)

I am very glad that the site is live, but to actively develop it I just no effort or time. And, yes, the site itself is now costing not particularly expensive, about 600 rubles a month for Shared hosting (which parallel a few of my sites live), well, plus the domain once a year to renew, but it's a penny at all.

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

9:31 - 23 May 2012

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68

By interchanging the terms ... During the migration process "for inexpensive on the knee" loss of information is inevitable, but "for the expensive" does not make sense. Our "brake" the engine has an advantage: There is a time to think, "Is it worth it to post garbage, maybe I got a little excited?"

kypexin - Administrator

9:32 - 23 May 2012

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Gorynych5 writes:


Realistic it is necessary to look at things: How much per day can be unique visitors? I do not think more than two dozen. Of these, someone came to take a look or simply passed on the search link at the request Zippo. So fantastic $ 15,000 converted into pennies. This is my personal opinion ...


Dragon, you're not going to believe - a unique living people every day around 500-600 comes :) Another question is that 95% of them - is often transitions from search engines, well, some of them like the site more or less, but active participants in the same forum, I think the remaining 5% to account for no more.

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

9:40 - 23 May 2012

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Nope, I will not believe Volodya. As far as I understand most of these 500-600 it's still not a "unique live" and the search engine spiders - once inserted in other forums pictures from the site - two;

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

9:51 - 23 May 2012

1860 posts

71

Periodically come across when searching on our articles yours_truly, with photo painfully familiar to asses my own lighters placed on other sites apparently without it, your and my permission. A photo where? On our server. It is loaded and the counter registers the arrival of the user. Maybe I'm wrong or poorly understood, but something like that to me, "the bearded odmin" explained)))

kypexin - Administrator

10:13 - May 23, 2012

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Gorynych5 writes:

Periodically come across when searching on our articles yours_truly, with photo painfully familiar to asses my own lighters placed on other sites apparently without it, your and my permission. A photo where? On our server. It is loaded and the counter registers the arrival of the user. Maybe I'm wrong or poorly understood, but something like that to me, "the bearded odmin" explained)))


Wrong :) I'm talking about comes to your site (ie opening a browser at least one page), not podgruzku pictures with him.

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

10:23 - May 23, 2012

1860 posts

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Well, so much so. And it's still an active flood here 10 people. This is without any counters and computer programs can be seen)))

Val1730 - Expert

11:21 - May 23, 2012

158 posts

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Gorynych5 writes:

Well, so much so. And it's still an active flood here 10 people. This is without any counters and computer programs can be seen)))


This is true :) On other forums of the lighters and even less :)

kypexin - Administrator

13:36 - May 23, 2012

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Val1730 writes:

Gorynych5 writes:

Well, so much so. And it's still an active flood here 10 people. This is without any counters and computer programs can be seen)))


This is true :) On other forums of the lighters and even less :)


And that there are "others" forums? :))))))))))

Val1730 - Expert

13:50 - May 23, 2012

158 posts

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kypexin writes:


And that there are "others" forums? :))))))))))


Funny ... .. Vladimir cry :( Perhaps you forgot, let me remind you :)

You go out there it's fun ... not as much as before but still ......

http://vintagelighters.ru/forum/

kypexin - Administrator

14:05 - May 23, 2012

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Val1730 writes:

kypexin writes:


And that there are "others" forums? :))))))))))


Funny ... .. Vladimir cry :( Perhaps you forgot, let me remind you :)

You go out there it's fun ... not as much as before but still ......

http://vintagelighters.ru/forum/


Oo! Well, exactly the same :))) I missed :)

Val1730 - Expert

14:11 - May 23, 2012

158 posts

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kypexin writes:


Oo! Well, exactly the same :))) I missed :)


Well, Father zhdems return to the lost children :)

ultrain - Expert

14:36 ​​- May 23, 2012

166 posts

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So what you end up with, who can say how much will cost dvizhek or on the knee is not erasing all of the information, and there is not really much of bots and normal living souls! this question is probably to Volodya and modders, they still mostly informatsieyraspolagayut! Roughly estimate though as the saying goes ... X to the nose!

kypexin - Administrator

14:54 - May 23, 2012

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ultrain writes:

So what you end up with, who can say how much will cost dvizhek or on the knee is not erasing all of the information, and there is not really much of bots and normal living souls! this question is probably to Volodya and modders, they still mostly informatsieyraspolagayut! Roughly estimate though as the saying goes ... X to the nose!


But who knows how much will cost. From zero to infinity :))) No, well, seriously, the global alteration of the entire site with a single programmer can cost from 20 to 50 thousand rubles, so if you really about.

About living souls not ready to say. Should look.

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

15:45 - May 23, 2012

1860 posts

81

And how many typed "living souls" to buy this brilliant replica with site logo? How many of them would be willing to pay money is not comparable for the goods, but for the fact that the pages open faster?

ultrain - Expert

15:58 - May 23, 2012

166 posts

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Well I see and Stas are ready to support the site or type of payment to make the club!) I think you just have to calculate how many really here at all the living people, not bots!)

ultrain - Expert

16:02 - May 23, 2012

166 posts

83

Message Edit 16:15 - May 23, 2012 user ultrain


well, for example if 15 people and will be typed. If you take the lighters, and 100r every month for 18 thousand))) I for example if a month 100r will make, I have them and unnoticed, then fly thousands!) You can make a start for some type of e-wallet and go to shower , well, for example short unsubscribe, then you can really start to learn how to do it voplotimo? type of experimentation! and threw unsubscribed type: Bob 100, Peter 50, Misha 500 if go to the masses, you can then put the minimum membership fee!

I give an example I have been professionally rollers (friskeytom)

And so in addition to uniforms themselves rollers, wheels, which wear out in a month out of order 5-10tys, plus about 1 thousand (at least), I'm paying dues that have:

1) Member of the scooter club, 2) belong to a closed group in the forum 3) competitions, trips, vacation, travel, closed vechrinki only for members of all due premiums, well, if you can not pull your pocket yet with a grab!

Personally, I'm happy, because, aside from the fact that we all meet together, even open rollerball school, absolutely free of charge for beginners who have just started to stand on them! shops are!

Well, something like this, I can do what, Wedboo Russian site about ZIPPO one and it has a huge plus!

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

16:05 - May 23, 2012

1860 posts

84

Offered as Volodya voiced address purse where volunteers will be able to send money back marked "a new engine." If you typed the amount sufficient to upgrade, then hurray, forward, if not, it simply will send the money back. How do you like this offer?

ultrain - Expert

16:20 - May 23, 2012

166 posts

85

Message Edit 16:41 - May 23, 2012 user ultrain


so why send back, meaning that if you do it, you have to finish it alone until the end and not give up half way! Well, if it is absolutely evil will let Volodya make your pictures and autograph leave there, and send it too will be very right!

evenk - Expert

Moscow region

17:38 - May 23, 2012

391 posts

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Somehow do not quite understand all this talk about the new engine and tdA that, actually, because I do not like? I-Firefox, to him addon Fasterfox.Ego timer download pages: site-3,978s, forum, 4,281 with, authorization-5,202s, in my opinion not so medlenno.I whether fuss due to the acceleration in the second?

Gorynych5 - Maniac

Moscow

18:02 - May 23, 2012

1860 posts

87

evenk writes:

Somehow do not quite understand all this talk about the new engine and tdA that, actually, because I do not like? I-Firefox, to him addon Fasterfox.Ego timer download pages: site-3,978s, forum, 4,281 with, authorization-5,202s, in my opinion not so medlenno.I whether fuss due to the acceleration in the second?


Personally, I have the current speed is also quite satisfied. Therefore propose to "vote the ruble."

ultrain - Expert

1:26 - 24 May 2012

166 posts

88

So ... no one says that if someone has to be loaded quickly that all gud, I have the internet up to 25 Mbit / s that part of that proceeding, 6 browsers, and much more! So do not talk about those who have that loaded quickly, and some internet, here in the other salt that dvizhek anyway weak and that I have personally tested it on 3G modem! Website RBC loaded and then faster. It is time. And two, it would be nice to somehow keep our club, support, issue of the same year by lighters, some T-shirts with logos, caps, some meetings once a year to organize! I think it's all nice! The same jig that Stas did with some tightness pulled 15 people, and not it easier just to every month for some N-th amount to contribute and no steam and float people's brains. I personally had the example of manufacture jig with the inscription of the site, Stas good military man, the boy said, the boy did. Another would be scored and sent to all would return line headstock. I described the above example as a sport club that I go running and what are the pros club member has! Want to be a member of the club, hang out, relax, travel, receive gift, to be invited, to enter and go, no, no violence, but makes also communicate with everyone, but the same closing for example sports season we have a members-only club on the list and all the rest you please get the final pictures of our meetings! Abroad for a long time this is the norm. In general, what is there more to write, so I think everything is clear to all, I am ready to support our site every month ruble without question, let the administration decide of course taking into account the fact that some people we do not live in Russia, and in their country of wages in dozens times smaller, but still the same funny 100rubley mastered by everyone that we still kollektsioniruem no gobies from cigarettes))) will be more expensive and lighter steers))))

ultrain - Expert

1:31 - 24 May 2012

166 posts

89

ready to support the ruble, though the administration will calculate the "living souls" and the arithmetic mean of approximately how much it is necessary that all we have Shit stele and all went and jealous!)

Kuryan - Expert

Tashkent

8:47 - 24 May 2012

479 posts

90

Yes, on the speed of an Internet course also depends, in my home megabits likely to work from 2 to 10, and 25 - it can only dream :))))))))


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