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| slay - Expert 23:37 - April 8, 2011 458 posts |
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| also preferring cigarette, smoke them for a year. After smoking cigarettes they do not want and not that already. And nakurivaeshsya faster. But one - is not always possible to twist the true way to smoke less) but prices bite on tobacco. They also raised. Recently found a cheap and acceptable tobacco, two months Scuro, I come to the store - it 60 more bran. And the rest ... 10-20 took another, too delicious. |
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| hohol - Expert Belgorod 21:53 - April 9, 2011 246 posts |
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| Message edited 21:54 - April 9, 2011 by hohol734
oniks1 writes: And I have never used cigarettes "his" manufacturing ... Maybe it's time to start already? :)) Then give advice who thinks about the fundamental difference between the copies ... For example - http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_n ..... m270.l1311
Hansa is the theme for samokrutchikov, everything is clear and understandable described himself there prosvyaschalsya. if you're interested here's http://talks.guns.ru/forummess ..... 74017.html |
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| botas - Expert 21:56 - April 9, 2011 530 posts |
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| Message edited 21:58 - April 9, 2011 by botas
I've also wondered, why not hammer these empty gilzaki normal tobacco. We ought to consider. But the fact (Comrade grill) in Canada cigarettes worse than Yusa, and some Canadians specifically go after them in the States. |
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| hohol - Expert Belgorod 22:05 - April 9, 2011 246 posts |
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| Message edited 22:08 - April 9, 2011 by hohol734
Incidentally, when came across this forum, smiled heartily as imagination Drew fans Kozey legs and smelly shag! but when I read the topic, not smiling. I even did not know that such good tobaccos sold! rushed to the tobacco shop bought the machine, tobacco, paper and filters, and yet men very personal! and by flicking a Zippo good! here a lot of interesting http://www.samokrutka.ru/forum/index.php |
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| Hartman - Expert 23:07 - April 9, 2011 Posts 199 |
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| That's what we should prepare for the future. Policy - amazingly mindless, alas. http://www.dw-world.de/dw/arti ..... 82,00. html Who are too lazy to link to - the Germans are reaping the benefits of artificial scoring prices for tobacco, tobacco tax charges dropped, smuggling steers and pedals, and when you make the Chinese Jin Ling in Kaliningrad almost entirely to "export" to Europe. | Happiness is a belt-fed weapon. |
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| Hartman - Expert 1:16 - April 10, 2011 Posts 199 |
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| oniks1 writes: So our Kudrin, like it wants to raise prices 5 times ... I wonder why they do not come with salaries, as with penalties in Moscow and St. Petersburg, and other ...
That move on Jin Ling gradually create ... the main difference between the prices - and there and catch up ... buttlegery | Happiness is a belt-fed weapon. |
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| slay - Expert 18:42 - 11 April 2011 458 posts |
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| but the increase in the price of tobacco products is a horror what else. Well if money was raised though. If it is for children to not buy. Maybe. Like in America - smoke if you can afford it. Well raised already, how much can you. Of course smokers due dorozhanie will not throw. It turns psevdozabota what else. Or stupid little money. if either realized that from what I wrote - well, just have not had time to formulate) |
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| slay - Expert 18:44 - 11 April 2011 458 posts |
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| hohol734 writes: Message edited 22:08 - April 9, 2011 by hohol734
Men ... and yet very personal! and by flicking a Zippo good!
Yes yes yes! Do not compare to manufactured cigarettes. Recently took a pack of Winston (not advertising) - well, maybe not smoking. Rather, they would finish and get all the same to buy a tobacco shop, and then ended |
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| GhostRider - Member 19:17 - 11 April 2011 Posts 115 |
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| Who do many roll-ups are moving on. |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 19:31 - 11 April 2011 1860 posts |
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| time-time))) Well, once current smokers tinker with hand-rolled cigarette, the rest will soon agree diligence "fighters" for our health cigarette will become a luxury, go on home-grown tobacco) |
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| GhostRider - Member 20:29 - 11 April 2011 Posts 115 |
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| Message edited 20:32 - April 11, 2011 by GhostRider
Once these take a lot of time hand-rolled cigarettes. A cigarette I'm not complaining. Bought a pack / unit and not soared. And do not go to the tobacco shop, tobacco and to buy special paper. PS I think a lot depends on self-hypnosis) |
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| Truckdriver - Expert 21:06 - 11 April 2011 Posts 206 |
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| oniks1 writes: By the way, the weekend devoted to studying the topic "samokrutochnikov" fades into the "pipe" ... I read all kinds of forums, advice, guidance and instructions went ... More market research, both our and foreign, with suggestions on the availability and price ... with a visit to the official site Along the well-known manufacturers ... were viewed numerous videos on youtube ... Conclusion - the subject is so serious and affects so many interests that many of our posts on lighters seemed kindergarten ... :))
1. The third time already studied all these mountains disk imaging on tobacco. Try 100%. Only here ... sometimes I do not rise from behind the wheel to 6-9 hours, as it then twist on the move? Yes, and shitty road. | |
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| Hartman - Expert 22:36 - 11 April 2011 Posts 199 |
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| slay writes: but the increase in the price of tobacco products is a horror what else. Well if money was raised though. If it is for children to not buy. Maybe. Like in America - smoke if you can afford it. Well raised already, how much can you. Of course smokers due dorozhanie will not throw. It turns psevdozabota what else. Or stupid little money.
if either realized that from what I wrote - well, just have not had time to formulate)
Yes what there care osspidzya ... Can I myself will decide - what I shove in your body oldtaymersky without anal clown Onishchenko, eh? :) The chip is funny - wherever pulled up the excise tax on tobacco - revenues declined. And smokers have not diminished, the paradox. Americans are doing so - buy a bag of tobacco (there is not legally sell inexpensive), drawer liners and stuffed his pleasure special machine. And if lazy - there are all sorts ponaehi that trade with hand cigarette smoke at normal prices. Well, the Chinese are quickly oriented - take party in containers for export, without excise - smokes then from there take out negotiating with port security, and more correct containers stuffed swag like ugnanyh machines. And smokes then sell on the street. The British also adapted - by vskih markets sell cigarettes in bulk (to avoid doebok as excise and legality), there are purchased weeks in advance. Or go and buy units in Pakistan and other jihadis - they just do not touch the police. It just creates a black market buttleg, smokes gaining unprecedented of status and "mafia" - a source of income, comparable to market drugs. That's the whole concern. When we begin to inflate prices - guess who will trade under the floors of cigarette smoke? | Happiness is a belt-fed weapon. |
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| Hartman - Expert 22:40 - 11 April 2011 Posts 199 |
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| oniks1 writes: That's understandable ... Truckdriver himself here recently got into the car to tubifex ... I do not know how he smokes behind the wheel, but in his car to be impossible ... stinks terribly! :)) My question is a home that you do if I zasyadu evening as two hours to smoke the pipe - only got a cheer that will be for two hours at its discretion ... :)))
I do not have a ride. Two tubes is, personal belongings, even where tobacco is still there - but not even once. Smoked a pipe - and a cigarette "seized" then ... :) What is garbage and oral torture in general. Strongly pyhnesh - burned, lightly - damped, unevenly - is not that. Hemorrhoids which is, in general. :) | Happiness is a belt-fed weapon. |
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| GhostRider - Member 23:02 - 11 April 2011 Posts 115 |
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| $ 70 or best Butz Peterson)))) |
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| GhostRider - Member 23:20 - 11 April 2011 Posts 115 |
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| Message edited 23:26 - April 11, 2011 by GhostRider
Well, we all imported goods such inflated prices)) |
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| Hartman - Expert 0:08 - April 12, 2011 Posts 199 |
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| oniks1 writes: Hartman, Yes, I read the forums and now ... The tubing interesting people, some thoughtful, slow ... Long describe different tobaccos and tubes ... Apparently, this thing is not hasty smoking pipe ... :)) That's a lot, and "runs" as we have to forum, such as "do not burn" or "can not be removed" ... :)) And there, too - "I'm new, what to buy for $ 70? "Gets the same stupid answer and the conversation continues seasoned ... :))) About - "Smoked tube - and a cigarette" seized "then ... :)", read a good joke there - "Oblomov, not you the guy from our yard ..." :)))))))))
To love. I pathos smoking tube lasts about five minutes, and then begins the patience, alternating with bewilderment. I just broke the first (back in the 90s) - stupidly sat on it. Well, no pathos ... We must solemnly as a spinster in gynecology - sit down, put all personal belongings, with a face "I hear the secret harmony" stuff thoughtfully pyhnut, izborazit predorgazm bliss and continue to represent the solemnity of a cat sruschego until tobacco is not burned. Well and pathos of tobacco, pipes and Muckraking - too it is impossible to inflate, it's all a helluva lot like far-fetched-escheat. Well, all I'm sure as reduced in young Padawans from kagbe music - who is more expensive drums, in fact, and music is the best ... :) A tube, by the way, e-whi sold completely fucking and often - at ridiculous prices. The Germans often seen - obaldennny briar and tanks so over fifty, and what that pontovityh manufacturers. | Happiness is a belt-fed weapon. |
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| Truckdriver - Expert 1:18 - April 12, 2011 Posts 206 |
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| Serge, as you are always right. (Just remembered phrase of advertising: - Mom - you're right.-Hmm. I'm always right!) Amerikanskre iron (I mean the easy way) is very peculiar. For example grip on the track, after the 15 - year operating experience European trucks (where all controls are soft baby) I without any education and training behind the wheel American. So there clutch without air-hydraulic servo amplifiers quad resembles something athletic trainer, plus the PPC still not synchronized, ie in the course of the clutch pedal not help you. So I drive I have this liner from Finland home, on the road St. Petersburg, and as evil - rush hour. After the passage of this great city, my left leg bent at the knee stopped involuntarily thought crept disability :) Anyway, so I felt at that moment. But after the first flight, I fell in love with this technique, and understand it fully. It is made for people, though noisy, compared to "Europe". PS Sorry for off top, but I think that trubokurov roughly the same opinion on the subject. Very important to have patience, and to approach the study of the subject creatively, then success will not take long. :))) | |
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| Hartman - Expert 8:26 - April 12, 2011 Posts 199 |
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| Truckdriver writes: Serge, as you are always right. (Just remembered phrase of advertising: - Mom - you're right.-Hmm. I'm always right!) Amerikanskre iron (I mean the easy way) is very peculiar. For example grip on the track, after the 15 - year operating experience European trucks (where all controls are soft baby) I without any education and training behind the wheel American. So there clutch without air-hydraulic servo amplifiers quad resembles something athletic trainer, plus the PPC still not synchronized, ie in the course of the clutch pedal not help you. So I drive I have this liner from Finland home, on the road St. Petersburg, and as evil - rush hour. After the passage of this great city, my left leg bent at the knee stopped involuntarily thought crept disability :) Anyway, so I felt at that moment. But after the first flight, I fell in love with this technique, and understand it fully. It is made for people, though noisy, compared to "Europe". PS Sorry for off top, but I think that trubokurov roughly the same opinion on the subject. Very important to have patience, and to approach the study of the subject creatively, then success will not take long. :)))
Oh how I understand it ... :) | Happiness is a belt-fed weapon. |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 22:02 - 12 April 2011 1860 posts |
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| And buy Zippo with "leaky" INCERA?)) |
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| Gorynych5 - Maniac Moscow 22:51 - 12 April 2011 1860 posts |
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| An interesting twist, Serge)) Well, I can only wish good and interesting tubes of tube Zipp)) |
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| danil112233 - Member 20:34 - 14 April 2011 Posts 63 |
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| who knows what the best cigars? Price to 300rubley. well or cigarillos if such cheap cigars not? |
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| GhostRider - Member 20:57 - 14 April 2011 Posts 115 |
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| Hartman - Expert 21:10 - 14 April 2011 Posts 199 |
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| danil112233 writes: who knows what the best cigars? Price to 300rubley. well or cigarillos if such cheap cigars not?
300 rubles - is that something unassumingly ... But such shutkovina as Blackwoods - pachechka three to five non-small sigarok kagbe hand-rolled - thing. Worth 150 rubles and more, depending on the ambition of the seller. Delivers completely. There are also such a mark - Garcia Vega - but then it ceased to carry - was very badly for California cigars. | Happiness is a belt-fed weapon. |
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| val1730 - Guest 21:51 - 14 April 2011 |
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| Good evening! To be honest I do not know the taste of a cigar, have enough to do the first couple of puffs (or they are not inhaling smoked?) And then it is not rushing himself :) smoke cigarettes DUNHILL fine cut, or that need to reach to smoke cigars? |
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| Hartman - Expert 22:47 - 14 April 2011 Posts 199 |
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| val1730 wrote: Good evening! To be honest I do not know the taste of a cigar, have enough to do the first couple of puffs (or they are not inhaling smoked?) And then it is not rushing himself :) smoke cigarettes DUNHILL fine cut, or that need to reach to smoke cigars?
Cigars (cigarillos not, although they can smoke nevzatyag) - smoked precisely pipe without inhaling - so kagbe teach us classics and adepts, although I do not care for them and I love to smoke cigars and vzatyazhku sometimes. By goodies - I have to this day they rule Cohiba - Dominican but, oddly enough. And all in a cigar noticed a dependence - the smelly smoke fifth delicious smoked. Cohiba stinks like a burning warehouse uncleaned garbage cans - but flavorful blyadyuga ... | Happiness is a belt-fed weapon. |
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| val1730 - Guest 14:55 - 15 April 2011 |
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| Hartman writes: By goodies - I have to this day they rule Cohiba - Dominican but, oddly enough. And all in a cigar noticed a dependence - the smelly smoke fifth delicious smoked. Cohiba stinks like a burning warehouse uncleaned garbage cans - but flavorful blyadyuga ...
Dmitry, I believe you :) I found the cheapest Cohiba Coronas Especiales-$ 75-5pieces until refrain :) Imagine, bought, smoked, did not like, I'll wait who can leave smoke :) :) :) |
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| danil112233 - Member 19:34 - 15 April 2011 Posts 63 |
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| I think cheap cigarillos-king edward, cheap cigars-Phillies Titan best there is, but who still kak.Dak cigars and cigarillos vzatyag or not to smoke, how? |
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| Hartman - Expert 23:59 - 15 April 2011 Posts 199 |
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| danil112233 writes: I think cheap cigarillos-king edward, cheap cigars-Phillies Titan best there is, but who still kak.Dak cigars and cigarillos vzatyag or not to smoke, how?
How do you like - and correctly. :) | Happiness is a belt-fed weapon. |
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| GhostRider - Member 23:59 - 15 April 2011 Posts 115 |
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| Cigarillos in mouthfuls (or rather their half tightened. There a special technique), and cigars - no. Although, if you honestly do not understand how you can keep the smoke in your mouth, I vseravno vzatyag smoke))) PS I agree. King Edward is just a cigar) Cigarillos are: Macbeth, Sea etc. |
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